IEEE P1735 Working Group Meeting of August 8, 2011

Meeting Info

Conference Bridge and Live-Meeting

Participants

• Attending
  • Steven Dovich, Cadence DR
  • Jarek Kaczynski, Aldec DR
  • Dave Graubart, Synopsys DR
  • Michael Smith, Synopsys DRA
  • Ray Martin, Xilinx DR
  • John Shields, Mentor DR
  • Dave Clemans, Synopsys DRA

• Not Attending
  • Parminder Gill, Synopsys DRA
  • Premduth Vidyanandan, Xilinx
  • Nick Sgoupis, CAST
  • Albert Chiang, Synopsys
  • Nitin Khurana, Cadence DRA
  • David Pena, Cadence
  • Joe Daniels, IEEE Standards Association
  • Karlton Lau, Xilinx
  • Gary Delp, Accellera/Silver Loon Systems
  • Bin Dai, Xilinx
  • Ruchi Tyagi, Cadence DRA
  • Syed Huq, Cisco
  • William A Hanna, Boeing
  • Meera Srinivasan, Synopsys
  • Jim Robinson, Synopsys
  • NSS Subramanian, Cadence
  • David Tran, Synopsys

Agenda

1. Determine Quorum
2. Patent slides
3. Approve agenda
4. Approval of Meeting minutes from 07/25/2011
5. Action Items Status
6. Liaison Reports
7. Inter-operability Issues
8. License Management
9. Key Management
10. Rights Management
11. Common Rights and Visibility
12. Work Plan
13. Other Business
14. Adjourn

Minutes

Attendance/Quorum

We have 5/6 eligible entities, and have a working quorum.

Patent Policy

The Patent slides were offered for review.

No new claims were disclosed at the call for essential patent claims.

Agenda Approval

Motion by Dave G, seconded by Jarek. Motion is approved.

Previous Minutes

John moved and Ray seconded the approval of the July 25, 2011 minutes. The motion was approved.

Action Item Review

Steven reviewed the open action items.

Steven reported that the e-mail ballots for the P&P document have responses from 5/6 entities with no objections, and the ballot will close on 8/12/2011. The e-mail ballots for the Key Management recommendations have responses from 4/6 entities with no objections and the ballot will close on 8/12/2011.

Liaison Reports

Steven reported that DASC has requested our approved P&P updates be submitted in time for DASC to approve them at the September meeting. Dennis Brophy gave a presentation on the relationship of DASC sponsored standards to International standards work, slides from that presentation were to be posted at the DASC web site. IEEE SA is in the process of discontinuing the Request for Interpretation process, and will be replacing that with direct interaction with the working group for the standard in question. IEEE SA is also eliminating the re-affirmation process for stable standards, and will extend the lifetime for approved standards to 10 years from the current 5 years

Inter-operability

License Management

Key Management

Rights Management

Parminder is expected to be back from leave shortly and he and Dave G plan to update the Recommendations page with new text soon.

Common Rights and Visibility

John got feedback from Dave and Ray on his proposals and ideas, and is looking for responses from Jarek and Steven. John's blue pill discussion is intended to determine whether P1735 has the will or desire to solve some of these difficult problems. Steven indicated that he is thinking about how to deliver recommendations in stages that the marketplace can adopt as customers drive vendors forward. Michael and Ray have experienced pressure from their customers to address issues in visibility. Ray is interested in staged solutions as well.

John asked about P1735 interest in error messages and reporting. Ray replied that reporting provided an additional doorway to disclose IP content. Steven noted that P1800 is looking at expanding the set of openly accessible information to include the filename where protected objects are found.

John pointed out that without a strong visibility and/or common rights contribution, P1735 is not going to have a substantial impact. The current recommendations do not yet require major changes from industry.

Michael raised concerns about not addressing issues we have already identified as important. Looking for more content beyond the current issues risks substantial delay. Ray sees de facto agreement in the simulation phase, but other parts of the flow are not as consistent. Dave G felt that the design state and activity ideas help to create a framework where the marketplace can evolve common rights behavior. John and Dave G agreed that we might extract maximum value by addressing the front-end of the design flow where the IP is still high-level, and let the market (and the inherent complexity of the IP) deal with the back-end for now.

Work Plan

Task	Requirements/White Paper	Writer-ready Specification
Use Model	02-Jul-2008	???
Trust Model	???	???
Interoperability	24-Aug-2009	26-Jan-2010
License Management	19-Apr-2011	???
Visibility Management	23-Jul-2010	???
Key Management	18-Oct-2010	???
Rights Control Structures	27-Jun-2011	???
Common Rights	23-Jul-2011	???

Other Business

Next Meeting

The next P1735 meeting is scheduled for August 22, 2011 at 15:00UTC.

Tentative Agenda

1. Determine Quorum
2. Patent slides
3. Approve agenda
4. Approval of Meeting minutes from 08/08/2011
5. Action Items Status
6. Liaison Reports
7. Meeting Schedule
8. Inter-operability Issues
9. License Management
10. Key Management
11. Rights Management
12. Common Rights and Visibility
13. Work Plan
14. Other Business
15. Adjourn

Adjournment

Motion by Ray, second by Dave G. Approved by acclamation at 16:30UTC

Approval

These minutes are unapproved.

-- StevenDovich - 2011-08-08