IEEE P1735 Working Group Meeting of April 6, 2009

Meeting Info

Conference Bridge and Live-Meeting

Participants

  • Attending
    • Steven Dovich, Cadence
    • Dave Clemans, Synopsys
    • Nitin Khurana, Cadence
    • Michael Smith, Synopsys
    • John Shields, Mentor
    • Ruchi Tyagi, Cadence
    • William A Hanna, Boeing
    • Nick Sgoupis, CAST
    • Dave Graubart, Synopsys
    • Bin Dai, Xilinx
    • Karlton Lau, Xilinx

  • Not Attending
    • Parminder Gill, Synopsys
    • Premduth Vidyanandan, Xilinx
    • Meera Srinivasan, Synopsys
    • Syed Huq, Cisco
    • Jim Robinson, Synopsys
    • NSS Subramanian, Cadence
    • David Tran, Synopsys
    • Gary Delp, LSI

Agenda

  1. Determine Quorum
  2. Patent slides
  3. Approve agenda
  4. Approval of Meeting minutes from 3/23/2009
  5. Action Items Status
  6. Liaison Reports
  7. Meeting Schedule
  8. Inter-operability testing
  9. License Management
  10. Key Management
  11. Other Business
  12. Adjourn

Minutes

Attendance/Quorum

We have 4/4 eligible entities, and have a working quorum.

Patent Policy

The Patent slides were offered for review.

No new claims were disclosed at the call for essential patent claims.

Agenda Approval

Motion by John, seconded by Bill. Motion is approved.

Previous Minutes

John moved and Michael seconded the approval of the March 23, 2009 minutes. The motion was approved.

Action Item Review

Steven reviewed the open action items.

Liaison Reports

P1800 has posted their ballot comments. Resolution is underway.

Inter-operability Testing

John introduced his writeup on Interoperability.

Steven described how P1003 dealt with conformance testing through a formal standard. John described the process that P1364 used to develop a verification suite.

%ACTION{ closed="2013-09-20" closer="Main.StevenDovich" created="2009-04-06" creator="Main.StevenDovich" due="" notify="" state="closed" uid="000059" who="" }% Feedback on terms/conditions acceptable to tool vendors for an open test suite

Re-opened in P1735DeferredActionItems %ENDACTION%

Bill suggested that testing should extend beyond tool vendor issues, for example to platforms and operating systems. Dave G. noted the line termination differences between Unix and Windows as a good source of interoperability problems.

Future work on testing would include:

  1. Need to avoid vendor legal issues
  2. Hosting support for a test repository and process for managing contributions
  3. Technical design for the suite

%ACTION{ closed="2013-09-20" closer="" created="2009-04-06" creator="Main.StevenDovich" due="" notify="" state="closed" uid="000060" who="" }% Need support for test suite hosting

Re-opened in P1735DeferredActionItems %ENDACTION% %ACTION{ closed="2013-09-20" closer="" created="2009-04-06" creator="Main.StevenDovich" due="" notify="" state="closed" uid="000061" who="Main.RuchiTyagi" }% Draft a proposal for test suite structure

Re-opened in P1735DeferredActionItems %ENDACTION%

Michael asked about how vendors would integrate our tests with their products.

Steven raised a process question around how to deal with problems identified through interoperability testing. John described the ISAC process developed by P1076 to resolve problems, and noted that DASC has made P1735 the defacto owner of resolving encryption related issues. Backward-compatibility is part of the considerations that ISAC uses, and the participants there all have a stake in the resolution. John pointed out that the tool identification tags offer a way out of the backward compatibility problem.

Bill suggested that interoperability information be published in a neutral informative way as a result of our work. The intent is to provide information useful to the user community.

Steven and Dave G. both identified issues around evolving standardization that may need conventions for annotation in the encrypted designs. Further discussion should continue on the e-mail reflector.

License Management

Key Management

Other Business

Adjournment

Motion by Dave G, second by Bill. Approved by acclamation at 11:29 pm CDT

Approval

These minutes were approved at the April 20, 2009 meeting.

-- StevenDovich - 20 Apr 2009

Topic revision: r4 - 2013-09-20 - 20:28:03 - StevenDovich
 
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