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<verbatim> Minutes of the sv-sc sub-committee meeting, August 12, 2008 =================Attendance============================= 102210021020220 Day 259258147306817 000000000000000 Month 887777766655444 000000000000000 Year 888888888888888 --[--------------a] Arturo Salz - Synopsys vv[aaaaaa-aaaa-aa-] Abigail Morehouse - Mentor --[--------------a] Bassam Tabbara - Synopsys --[--------------a] Brad Pierce - Synopsys --[----------a-aaa] Cliff Cummings - Sunburst Design vv[a-aaa--a--aaaaa] Dave Rich - Mentor Graphics vv[-a-aaaaaaaaa-aa] Dmitry Korchemny - Intel --[----------a-aa-] Don Mills - --[----------aaaaa] Eduard Cerny - Synopsys tt[aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa] Erik Seligman - Intel (chair) vv[aaaa-a-aaaaaaaa] Francoise Martinolle - Cadence vv[--aaaaaaaaaaaaa] Gordon Vreugdenhil - Mentor Graphics -v[--aaaaaa-aaaaa-] Jin Yang - Intel --[---------aaaaaa] John Havlicek - Freescale --[--------------a] Jonathan Bromley - Doulas --[---------a--a-a] Karen Pieper - Accellera vv[aaaaa-aaaaaaaaa] Lisa Piper - Cadence vv[a-aaaaa-aaaaaaa] Manisha Kulshrestha - Mentor Graphics vv[aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa] Mark Hartoog - Synopsys --[---------aaaaaa] Mehdi Mohtashemi - Synopsys vv[aaaaaaaaaaaa...] Michael Burns - Freescale --[a--aaa---aaaaaa] Mirek Forczek - Aldec vv[aa-aaaa--aaaaaa] Neil Korpusik - Sun Microsystems --[-------------a-] Ray Ryan - Mentor --[-------------aa] Shalom Bresticker - Intel vv[aaaaaa-aaaaaaaa] Steven Sharp - Cadence --[------------aaa] Stu Sutherland - Sutherland HDL --[-------------aa] Surrendra Dudani - Synopsys vv[aaa-aaaaaaaaaaa] Tom Thatcher - Sun Microsystems (co-chair) || ||---- Voting eligibility for current meeting |------Voting eligibility for next meeting ====================Agenda============================== Agenda: 1. Review the patent policy ref: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt 2. Approve the minutes from the last meeting, available at http://www.eda.org/twiki/bin/view.cgi/P1800/SvScMeetingMinutes20080805 3. Review of Mantis item updates from Champions, voice votes on new changes * 2434: Self-determined Types * 2396: edge clk * 2398: Procedural Concurrent Assertions * 1900: Checkers 4. Opens? ====================Summary============================== 1. Voice voted to approve changes to the following Mantis items in response to Champions feedback: 2434: Self-determined Types 2396: edge clk 2398: Procedural Concurrent Assertions 1900: Checkers ====================Notes============================== 1 Patent policy ref: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Move: Mike : Accept patent policy as reviewed Second: Lisa Unanimously approved. 2. Approve Minutes Posted at: http://www.eda.org/twiki/bin/view.cgi/P1800/SvScMeetingMinutes20080805 Move: Mike : Approve minutes from last meeting Second: Lisa Unanimously approved 3. Review of Mantis item updates from Champions, voice votes on new changes 1. 2434: Self-determined types. Stu wanted a more complete example. Champions edited the example. Any objections? Mike: I reviewed it and it looks OK. No other objections 2. 2396: edge clk Move: Tom: MOve to accept Second: Mike: Unanimously approved. Neil: Did he get the requested change on page 5? Yes, it's there. Manisha: Is last example correct? Tom: Example is correct. the "&&& !mode" is not necessary to illustrate the point. Neil: Would suggest not making a change. Should only consider changes requested by champions. 3. 2398: Procedural Concurrent Assertions Erik: "Else" clause of "if 1900 passes" Move: Neil: Approve changes to 2398 Second: Tom Unanimously approved 4. 1900: Checkers Part 1: Tom: Made two fixes: 1. In BNF, changed an "=" to bold red type. 2. Added "A generate block" to list of places where a concurrent assertion may appear. Part2: Erik: Fix #1: Fix example by making variable automatic Fix #2 p. 13: Added explanation of assume set. Fix #3 Counting error: failure occurs six cycles later, not five. Fix #4 17.6.3: deleted a sentence. It was just a arepeat of sampling section for concurrent assertions Editorial stuff. Fix #5 Page 2: Added text to restrictions on escaping references. Fransoise: Is this explained? Erik: It's clear to me. Fix #6 Removed duplicate list of where checkers may occur. Issue: Cross-references may be confusing to editor. Neil: Specify an ordering to implementing Mantis items. Page 5 Added "Immediate and Concurrent" to Erik: This makes the text incorrect. Mike: Added this because one champion was confused whether immediate assertions were allowed inside of a checker. Erik: Will update paragraph to separate treatment of immediate, & concurrent. Page 6: In example, changed last argument to be a legal argument. Ticks were the wrong type. Fixed now by removing const cast. Page 8: 17.5 "event control statement" -> "procedural timing control" 17.5: Struck the entire sentence "monitored only on first clock" Page 9: 17.6 "any point in time" to "any timestep" Erik: Can we just delete the entire sentence? Neil: Agree Move: Mike: Accept changes to 1900 Second: Tom Abstain: Steven: still feels that 1900 proposal has not had enough review. Approved. 4. Opens Remember to check cross references. Neil: Draft 7 will be the ballot draft. We may not be able to fix problems before balloting. May need to fix problems through balloting process. Next meeting: Tenatively plan for meeting next Tuesday: 8/19/2008 in case more amendments are requested by the working group. </verbatim> -- Main.ErikSeligman - 13 Aug 2008
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