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---+ SV-BC meeting minutes for September 13, 2016

| Attendee | Company | Mantis<br /> Perms | <p>Mar</p> <p>15</p> | <p>Mar</p> <p>29</p> | <p>Apr</p> <p>12</p> | <p>Apr</p> <p>26</p> | <p>May</p> <p>10</p> | <p>May</p> <p>24</p> | <p>June</p> <p>21</p> | July 19 | Sep 13 |
| Shalom Bresticker | Accellera | U | X | X | | X | X | X | | | |
| Steven Sharp | Cadence | U | X | X | X | X | X | X | X | X | X |
| Francoise Martinolle | Cadence | U | X | X | X | | X | X | X | | X |
| Mark Strickland | Cisco | U | X | X | | X | X | X | X | X | X |
| Matt Maidment | Intel | M | X | X | X | X | X | | | X | X |
| Brandon Tipp | Intel | U | X | X | X | X | X | X | | | X |
| Boon Chong Ang | Intel | | X | X | | | | | | | |
| Jonathan Bromley | Oracle | U | | X | | X | X | | X | | X |
| Neil Korpusik | Oracle | M | X | X | X | X | X | | X | X | X |
| Eric Coffin | Mentor Graphics | R | X | X | X | | X | X | | X | X |
| C Venkat Ramana Rao | Mentor Graphics | R | | X | X | | X | X | | X | X |
| Dave Rich | Mentor Graphics | U | | | X | X | X | X | X | X | X |
| Ray Ryan | Mentor Graphics | | | X | X | X | X | X | X | X | X |
| Sachin Pathak | Mentor Graphics | | | X | | | X | | | | |
| Dave Scott | Real Intent | U | X | | | | | | | | |
| Mark Hartoog | Synopsys | U | X | X | X | X | X | X | X | X | X |
| Brad Pierce | Synopsys | U | X | X | | | X | X | X | X | X |
| Arturo Salz | Synopsys | U | X | | | | X | X | X | | |
| Justin Refice | nVidia | U | X | | X | X | X | X | X | | X |
| Karen Pieper | Accellera | M | | | | | | | | | |

<span style="background-color: transparent;">September 13, 2016 8am-10am PDT</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent;">Action Items</span>

Open

Jan 19 Matt: Track version specific changes to LRM as AI and file if needed.

Apr 26 Matt: Add 4528 to future email vote if 343 is approved

343 approved.

Jun 05 Matt: Add 4679 to e-mail ballot when 5531 is resolved

Jun 21 Brad: Add new proposal for 1585

Jun 21 Brad: Update proposal for 2515 and send directly to Editor

Jun 21 Shalom: Update proposal for 3696

Jun 21 Brad: Update proposal for 5236 to standard format

Sep 13 MarkS: Write proposal for 4927.

Sep 13 Matt: Include 5531 in Sep 27 meeting agenda.

Sep 13 Matt: Include 2592 in next email vote.

Complete

May 24 Françoise: Check on 5540, about issue raised by Jonathan. 

Francoise provided feedback to Jonathan that the scenario should be supported.

May 24 Mark S: Send out options on 4927 that would clarify it.

Jun 21 Francoise and Dave: For 5531, Dave to send names of the responsible engineers to Francoise, and Francoise to get them to talk to her responsible engineers and extract a consensus recommendation.

Agenda
<ul type="circle"> <li>Review IEEE Patent Policy</li> </ul>
http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt

Directed participants to the patent policy.

<ul type="circle"> <li>Collect Open Agenda Items</li> </ul>
None.

<ul type="circle"> <li>Approve July 19 Meeting Minutes</li> </ul>
http://www.eda-twiki.org/cgi-bin/view.cgi/P1800/SvbcMinutes20160719

Dave moves to approve.

MarkH seconds.

No opposed.

Abstain: Brandon, Jonathan (did not attend)

<ul type="circle"> <li>Review Action Items<br /> Complete.</li> </ul>

<ul type="circle"> <li>Review Proposal for 5680</li> </ul>
[[https://accellera.mantishub.io/view.php?id=5680]]

Nobody but Arturo (via the reflector) objected to the change from property to method. Agreed to include this in the next email vote.<br /> 
<ul type="circle"> <li>4927 - [[https://accellera.mantishub.io/view.php?id=4927]]</li> </ul>
Potential Options:
<ul type="circle"> <li>add “soft a-&gt;b” to the example in 18.5.14, as suggested by Ray Ryan</li> <li>add informative text to 18.5.14</li> <li>modify the BNF, which is certainly a non-trivial exercise as shown by the attached thread</li> </ul>

MarkS recommends adding a valid example to 18.5.14 and a similar but illegal example as well. Current BNF is ambiguous but permits it. Group does not feel BNF update is warranted.

AI: MarkS to write proposal for 4927.

<ul type="circle"> <li>5531 - [[https://accellera.mantishub.io/view.php?id=5531]]</li> </ul>
Dave recommends that Francoise review latest comments from July 21 and provide acceptable, alternative text for a new proposal.

AI: Include 5531 in Sep 27 meeting agenda.

<ul type="circle"> <li>5540 - [[https://accellera.mantishub.io/view.php?id=5540]]</li> </ul>
Jonathan feels that the de facto standard is that enums in packed structs behave as constraints.

Justin moves to accept the proposal.

Jonathan seconds.

No opposed.

No abstain.

Motion passes.

<ul type="circle"> <li>2592 - [[https://accellera.mantishub.io/view.php?id=2592]]</li> </ul>
AI: Matt include 2592 in next email vote.

<ul type="circle"> <li>5705 - [[https://accellera.mantishub.io/view.php?id=5705]]</li> </ul>
Testbench writers might like this capability, to advance time at the minimum possible time step. Using this feature in procedural code is currently not well-defined.

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