Minutes of SV-AV Meeting.
Date: 2011-05-03
Time: 16:00 UTC (9:00 PDT)
Duration: 1.5 hours
Dial-in information:
Meeting ID: 38198
Phone Number(s):
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Agenda:
- Reminder of IEEE patent policy.
See:
http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt
- Minutes approval
- LRM draft review
- Email ballot results
Issues 3213 failed.
- New issues
- Issue resolution/discussion
Clocking blocks.
3385: Possible ambiguity when deferred assertion action block calls
nested function
2556: Explicit package scope indication is not allowed for checkers
- Enhancement progress update
3069: Relax rules for $global_clock resolution
3295: need a way to control only asserts/covers/assume directives
- Mantis status
- Opens
Next meeting
Attendance Record:
Legend:
x = attended
- = missed
r = represented
. = not yet a member
v = valid voter (2 out of last 3 or 3/4 overall)
n = not a valid voter
t = chair eligible to vote only to make or break a tie
Attendance re-initialized on 2010-07-06:
v[-xxxx-xxx-xxx...........................] Ashok Bhatt (Cadence)
v[xx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxx-xxxxxxxxx-x-xxxxx--xxx] Laurence Bisht (Intel)
v[xx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx-] Eduard Cerny (Synopsys)
n[--------xx---xxx--x-xxxxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxxx] Ben Cohen
n[---------------------xx-x-xxx-x--xxxxxxx] Surrendra Dudani (Synopsys)
n[-x-xxxx-x-x----x-x-x--xx---xxxx---x-xxxx] Dana Fisman (Synopsys)
n[-------------------xxxxx-xxxx-x-xxxxxxxx] John Havlicek (Freescale)
v[x-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx] Tapan Kapoor (Cadence)
v[x-xxxx-x-x..............................] Jacob Katz (Intel)
t[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx--xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Dmitry Korchemny (Intel ¿
Chair)
v[xx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx--xxxxxx-xxxxxxxx] Scott Little (Freescale)
v[xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx] Manisha Kulshrestha
(Mentor Graphics)
v[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Anupam Prabhakar (Mentor
Graphics)
v[x-xxxx-xxx-xxx--x-xx-xxx-xx--xxxxxxx-xxx] Erik Seligman (Intel)
v[xxxxxxx-x-xxx-xxxx-xxxx--xxxxxx-xxxxxxx.] Samik Sengupta (Synopsys)
v[xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxx] Tom Thatcher (Oracle ¿
Co-Chair)
n[----xx---xx-------x.....................] Srini Venkataramanan
(CVC Pvt Ltd)
|- attendance on 2011-05-02
|--- voting eligibility on 2011-05-02
Minutes:
- Reminder of IEEE patent policy.
See:
http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt
Participants were reminded of the IEEE patent policy.
- Minutes approval
Erik: Move to approve minutes
Scott: Second
Vote results: 10y, 0n 0a
Opens:
Next week, Tuesday is a holidy in Israel. We will not hold a meeting
next tuesdday.
- LRM draft review
Dmitry has published a list of Mantis items implemented in the draft.
Each Mantis item owner should review that the changes were implemented
correctly.
Target for draft review to be complete by our next meeting (2 weeks from
today)
If any problem found, move Mantis item status to "Editor", and write a note
describing the problem.
We should also review our sections of the LRM. Dmitry will assign sections.
- Email ballot results
Issues 3213 failed.
Anupam: "Sampled Value" and "Concurrent Value" are confusing
OK with "Concurrent context"
$sampled() returning a concurrent value is also a problem.
Tom: Don't need to define new term "concurrent value" just define rules
in one section and refer to that.
Scott: Not OK with the fact that $sampled returned the "concurrent value"
Dmitry: straw poll to determine direction for this item:
Choices:
1. Modify the meaning of sampling. keep the rest as it is
2. Introduce the concept of concurrent context, use $concurrent,
deprecate $sampled
3a. Same as 2, but leave also $sampled as it is now (e.g., say that
$sampled(automatic_variable) is illegal)
3b. Same as 2, but use $sampled instead of $concurrent
4. Same as 2, but say that $sampled and $concurrent are synonyms
5. Get rid of term "sampled" and use "concurrent" instead. Keep function
$sampled.
Results: (+ in favor, - opposed)
Anupam +1, - 2, 3a, 3b, 4, 5
Ed +3b, -3a, 4
Erik +3a
Jacob +1,5,2 - the rest
Laurence +1, 3b, -4
Manisha +1. 3b -3a, 2
Samik +3b, -3a, 4
Scott +3a. -3b, 4, 5
Tapan +1, 5, -3a
Tom +3a, 3b, 4, 2 -1
Dmitry +1,2 -...
Dmitry, Erik: Dmitry will summarize results and send them to SV-AC and
to Gord and Dave.
The winner is 1, Dmitry will prepare the next version of the proposal
and call to vote if time permits.
Jacob: 3069 is ready to vote. Dmitry will call to vote.
Manisha: 3295 ¿ Will address Scott¿s comments and notify Dmitry when
ready. Dmitry will call to vote.
Erik: 3385 ¿ Will make changes and notify Dmitry when ready. Dmitry will
call to vote.
Laurence: 2556 is ready for review. Jacob and Manisha will review.