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Minutes from SV-AC Committee Meeting
Date: 2014-12-01
Time: 16.30:00 UTC (8:30 PST)
Duration: 1 hour
Agenda
- Reminder of IEEE patent policy.
See:
http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt
- Elaborating recommendations for the next P1800 PAR.
- Opens
Attendance Record:
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r = represented
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v = valid voter (2 out of last 3 or 3/4 overall)
n = not a valid voter
t = chair eligible to vote only to make or break a tie
Attendance re-initialized on 2014-11-18:
v[x-] Shalom Bresticker (Intel)
v[x-] Dennis Brophy (Mentor Graphics)
v[xx] Eduard Cerny (Synopsys)
v[xx] Ben Cohen
v[xx] John Havlicek (Cadence)
v[xx] Tapan Kapoor (Cadence)
t[xx] Dmitry Korchemny (Intel - Chair)
v[xx] Scott Little (Intel)
v[xx] Anupam Prabhakar (Mentor Graphics)
v[xx] Erik Seligman (Intel)
v[xx] Samik Sengupta (Synopsys)
|- attendance on 2014-12-01
|--- voting eligibility on 2014-12-01
Minutes
1. IEEE patent policy reminder
2. Elaborating recommendations for the next P1800 PAR
3478: Make drivers of inout ports accessible
Most people consider this item as important, but belonging to SV-BC realm.
SV-AC will recommend SV-BC to include this item to the next PAR.
Ben volunteered to champion this proposal
Scott expressed concern about SV-BC bandwidth availability for this issue.
5063: Automatic inference of assertion statement type
Ed and Erik expressed concern about this proposal: prescribing specific rules for assertion directive inference may contradict the behavior of formal verification tools.
Dmitry: Current LRM definition contradicts the behavior of most FV tools, therefore this definition should be modified. Specific modification may be as simple as a clarification sentence or may be complex and include new syntax and elaborated semantics. Also, definition of assumption is misleading.
Erik: need to change the item title to “Allow tools to modify the assertion statement type”.
SV-AC will recommend to include this proposal to the next PAR when its title has been modified
5064: Create standard package to define constants used in assertion-related stuff
SV-AC will recommend to include this proposal to the next PAR
5065: Create standard package to define implementation for commonly used properties
Erik expressed concern that this proposal should be handled by OVL committee.
John: This proposal is much simpler than new assertion library definition.
SV-AC will recommend to include this proposal to the next PAR
5067: Allow variables in delays and repeat operators
Many people consider this proposal important.
SV-AC will recommend to include this proposal to the next PAR
5068: concurrent assertions in classes
Most people consider this proposal important, but complicated.
Dmitry: Need also define checkers in classes
Ed: Need to define the clock semantics.
John: Form a group. Probably not feasible to complete the work in the next PAR, at to elaborate a recommendation.
Discussion stopped because the meeting ran out of time.
At the next meeting need to discuss proposals 5070 and 5071.
Tapan mentioned a need to develop VPI for checkers (item 2182). This proposal belongs to SV-CC, but need to discuss it at the next SV-AC meeting.
Ben suggested to revive several old enhancement proposals.
All these items will be discussed at the next meeting.
3. Opens
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