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---++ IEEE P1735 Working Group Meeting of June 23, 2014
---+++ Meeting Info

[[P1735MeetingInfo][Conference Information]]

---+++ Participants

   * Attending 
      * Dave Graubart, Synopsys _DR_ (Chair)
      * Dave Clemans, Synopsys _DRA_
      * Gael Paul, Accellera _DR_
      * Adam Sherer, Cadence _DR_
      * Ray Martin, Xilinx _DR_
      * Rod Price, Synopsys _DRA_
      * Steven Dovich, P1076 liaison
      * Joe Daniels, P1735 Technical Editor
      * Satyam Jani, Aldec _DR_
      * Ruchi Tyagi, Cadence _DRA_
      * John Shields, Mentor _DR_
   * Not Attending 
      * Sourabh Tandon, Synopsys _DRA_
      * Luis Humberto, Cadence _DRA_
      * Michael Smith, Synopsys _DRA_
      * Jeff Fox, Altera _DR_
      * Jonathan Goldberg, IEEE Professional Services
      * Nitin Khurana, Cadence _DR_
      * Krista Gluchoski, IEEE Professional Services
      * Dmitry Melnick, Aldec _DRA_
      * Stan Krolikoski, Cadence (DASC Chair)
      * Parminder Gill, Synopsys _DRA_
---+++ Agenda

   1 Determine Quorum
   1 [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]]
   1 Approve agenda
   1 Approval of Previous Meeting minutes
   1 Guests and new members
   1 Action Item Review
   1 Liaison Reports
   1 Ballot status
   1 Schedule
   1 General Status
   1 Individual Clause Status
   1 High-level Objectives
   1 Project Plan
   1 Other Business
   1 Adjourn
---+++ Minutes
---++++ Attendance/Quorum

We have 6/7 eligible entities, and have a working quorum.
---++++ Patent Policy

The [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]] were offered for review.

No new claims were disclosed at the call for essential patent claims.
---++++ Agenda Approval

Motion to approve agenda made by Ray, seconded John. Motion is approved.
---++++ Previous Minutes

John moved and Gael seconded the approval of the [[P1735Minutes2014Jun9][June 9, 2014]] minutes. The motion was approved.

John moved and Adam second receiving the [[P1735Minutes2014Jun16][June 16, 2014]] draft development committee notes. The motion was approved.

Ray moved and Gael second receiving the [[P1735Minutes2014Jun20][June 20, 2014]] draft development committee notes. The motion was approved.
---++++ Guests and New Members

None.
---++++ Action Item Review

None.
---++++ Liaison Reports

None.
---++++ Ballot Status

We are ready to go to ballot when the working group approves.
---++++ Schedule

Dave reviewed the current schedule:
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Duration
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Start
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End
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Draft 5 reivew
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14
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6/9/2014
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6/23/2014
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Draft 6 PDF creation
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4
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6/23/2014
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6/27/2014
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Ballot
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6/27/2014
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8/11/2014
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Review comments/rework
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8/11/2014
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9/10/2014
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Recirculation ballot
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30
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9/10/2014
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10/10/2014
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Submit for revcom
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50
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10/10/2014
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11/29/2014
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Revcom opportunity
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12/9/2014
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Slack
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10
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---++++ General Status

Joe walked us through a preview version of draft 6. This incorporates feedback received, includes a variety of clean-ups including consistent use of V1/V2 and version 1/version 2, and leaves a couple items in clause 8 to still resolve.
---+++++ Clause 1 - Overview

Updated to improve coverage of pupose, value, and approach. No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Clause 2 - Normative References

Updated to remove a dangling reference. The information is covered in the reference to RFC 5280. No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Clause 3 - Definitions, acronyms, abbreviations

Updatred with a better definition of digital envelope. No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Clause 4 - Trust model

Cosmetic updates made. No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Clause 5 - Interoperability

Updated per feedback that Joe received and now includes material previously in Annex B. No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Clause 6 - Key Management

Updated per feedback that Joe received. Steve pointed out grammar to fix in 6.4.2.3. John will look at this clause carefully, in particular how signed certificate vs. pragma are described, and have feedback to Joe by noon PDT tomorrow (6/24).
---+++++ Clause 7 - Rights Management

Updated per feedback that Joe received. Steve pointed out grammar to fix in 7.4.3. We discussed 7.4.7 and decided to list a set of rules for resolving rights that John wrote with some refinement by Ray and Dave. No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Clause 8 - License Management

The group discussed and resolved typography questions on some terms. Gael pointed out inconsistencies in license pragma conventions. Dave will review with Synopsys R&D and send updates to Joe by noon tomorrow (6/24). John pointed out a number in the text of 8.9.2 appears incorrect. Dave will review and include any fix in the update. John pointed out an error in 8.10, a reference to license count that should have been removed earlier. Joe fixed this during the meeting.
---+++++ Clause 9 - Visibility

Updated per feedback that Joe received including typos and removal of dangling retorical questions. No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Clause 10 - Common Rights

No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Annex A - Bibliography

No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Annex B - Required algorithms and interoperability

Removed, with information incorporated into Clause 5.
---+++++ Annex B/C - Other known issues with IP protection (informative, not normative)

Renamed Annex C to Annex B. No further changes are pending.
---++++ Work Plan
---+++++ High-level objectives
   * Go to ballot in June.
   * Get on agenda for December revcom ratification.
---+++++ Project Plan
   * Draft 6 
      * Complete per motions and schedule shown below
      * Insure we have addressed MEC review comments
   * Recirculation 
      * Review ballot feedback as it arrives
      * Review deferred topics ASAP
---++++ Other Business

Altera has lost WG voting rights for now due to lack of meeting participation per our P&Ps.

John made a motion that given our tight schedule to get to ballot, we waive the normal 14 day notice for action related to moving to ballot. Adam seconded and the motion was approved unanimously.

John made a motion that each entity approve by email, the draft that Joe will publish by Wednesday 6/25, by Thursday 6/26 at 5:00 PM PDT, and that we immediately proceed to ballot. Adam seconded and the motion was approved unanimously.

Steve commented that P1735 has progressed from a new area of discussion to a mature working group with a draft mature enough to go to ballot and thanked all of the contributors. Dave added a thanks to Steve for leading the effort for most of the life of the working group.

Dave to update web site including fixing some file permissions - low priority.
---+++ Next Meeting

The next [[P1735MeetingInfo][P1735 meeting]] is scheduled for July 7, 14 at 16:00UTC.

*Tentative Agenda for next WG meeting*
   1 Determine Quorum
   1 [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]]
   1 Approve agenda
   1 Approval of Previous Meeting minutes
   1 Guest and new members
   1 Action Item Review
   1 Liaison Reports
   1 Ballot status
   1 Schedule
   1 General Status
   1 Individual Clause Status
   1 High-level Objectives
   1 Project Plan
   1 Other Business
   1 Adjourn
---++++ Adjournment

Motion by John, second by Ray. Approved by acclamation at 17:18 UTC
---+++ Approval

These minutes are approved.

-- Main.DaveGraubart - 2014-06-24
Topic revision: r4 - 2014-07-07 - 15:08:13 - DaveGraubart
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