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---++ IEEE P1735 Working Group Meeting of July 21, 2014
---+++ Meeting Info

[[P1735MeetingInfo][Conference Information]]

---+++ Participants

   * Attending 
      * Dave Graubart, Synopsys _DR_ (Chair)
      * Ray Martin, Xilinx _DR_
      * Steven Dovich, P1076 liaison
      * Ruchi Tyagi, Cadence _DRA_
      * Gael Paul, Accellera _DR_
      * Dave Clemans, Synopsys _DRA_
      * Jonathan Goldberg, IEEE Professional Services
      * John Shields, Mentor _DR_
      * Sourabh Tandon, Synopsys _DRA_
   * Not Attending 
      * Luis Humberto, Cadence _DRA_
      * Adam Sherer, Cadence _DR_
      * Rod Price, Synopsys _DRA_
      * Joe Daniels, P1735 Technical Editor
      * Satyam Jani, Aldec _DR_
      * Jeff Fox, Altera _DR_
      * Nitin Khurana, Cadence _DR_
      * Krista Gluchoski, IEEE Professional Services
      * Dmitry Melnick, Aldec _DRA_
      * Stan Krolikoski, Cadence (DASC Chair)
      * Parminder Gill, Synopsys _DRA_
---+++ Agenda

   1 Determine Quorum
   1 [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]]
   1 Approve agenda
   1 Approval of Previous Meeting minutes
   1 Guests and new members
   1 Action Item Review
   1 Liaison Reports
   1 Ballot status
   1 Schedule
   1 General Status
   1 Individual Clause Status
   1 High-level Objectives
   1 Project Plan
   1 Other Business
   1 Adjourn
---+++ Minutes
---++++ Attendance/Quorum

We have 4/7 eligible entities, and have a working quorum.
---++++ Patent Policy

The [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]] were offered for review.

No new claims were disclosed at the call for essential patent claims.
---++++ Agenda Approval

Motion to approve agenda made by Ray, seconded Ruchi. Motion is approved.
---++++ Previous Minutes

Gael moved and Ruchi seconded the approval of the [[P1735Minutes2014Jul7][July 7, 2014]] minutes. The motion was approved.
---++++ Guests and New Members
---++++ Action Item Review

None.
---++++ Liaison Reports

None.
---++++ Ballot Status

Ballot is open, closing August 10. At the moment, we have 1 affirmative, 7 unreturned and 0 comments.
---++++ Schedule

Dave reviewed the current schedule:
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Duration
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Start
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End
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Draft 6 PDF creation
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3
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6/23/2014
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6/26/2014
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Ballot
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45
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6/26/2014
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8/10/2014
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Review comments/rework
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30
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8/10/2014
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9/9/2014
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Recirculation ballot
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30
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9/9/2014
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10/9/2014
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Submit for revcom
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50
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10/9/2014
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11/28/2014
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Revcom opportunity
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12/9/2014
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Slack
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11
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---++++ General Status

In ballot. John has collected a number of comments from others at Mentor and shared a couple of these regarding clause 7 which are discussed below. Another Mentor comment is that a summary of pragmas, including which are new, changed, or depreciated, would be helpful. If we do this, John suggests it may be best in a new annex.
---+++++ Clause 1 - Overview

No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Clause 2 - Normative References

No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Clause 3 - Definitions, acronyms, abbreviations

No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Clause 4 - Trust model

No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Clause 5 - Interoperability

No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Clause 6 - Key Management

No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Clause 7 - Rights Management

Consider adding encryption envelope examples.

John reported on some feedback from Mentor. One item is regarding the digest, of the difficultly of understanding what went wrong if either the encryptor or decryptor does not do an accurate calculation. The other item is a concern about transformations of rights through email or other means invalidating the digest. Gael mentioned that a similar concern was addressed in the past by using base64 encoding. John pointed out that this will not always help here because the rights are in clear-text, and a line could have a length large enough that an email program might add a newline, changing the valid digest value. John and Dave both said that email as a transport may not be supportable and a zip or other attachment may be required. We will need to consider how best to respond.
---+++++ Clause 8 - License Management

No further changes are pending. An update to the reference implementation for the Accellera forum is pending.
---+++++ Clause 9 - Visibility

No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Clause 10 - Common Rights

No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Annex A - Bibliography

No further changes are pending.
---+++++ Annex B - Other known issues with IP protection (informative, not normative)

No further changes are pending.
---++++ Work Plan
---+++++ High-level objectives
   * Solicit comments for recirculation ballot ASAP.
   * Get on agenda for December revcom ratification.
---+++++ Project Plan
   * Recirculation 
      * Review ballot feedback as it arrives
      * Review deferred topics ASAP
---++++ Other Business

Dave to update web site including fixing some file permissions - low priority.
---+++ Next Meeting

The next [[P1735MeetingInfo][P1735 meeting]] is scheduled for August 4, 14 at 16:00UTC.

*Tentative Agenda for next WG meeting*
   1 Determine Quorum
   1 [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]]
   1 Approve agenda
   1 Approval of Previous Meeting minutes
   1 Guest and new members
   1 Action Item Review
   1 Liaison Reports
   1 Ballot status
   1 Schedule
   1 General Status
   1 Individual Clause Status
   1 High-level Objectives
   1 Project Plan
   1 Other Business
   1 Adjourn
---++++ Adjournment

Motion by Gael, second by John. Approved by acclamation at 16:24 UTC
---+++ Approval

These minutes are approved.

-- Main.DaveGraubart - 2014-07-21
Topic revision: r3 - 2014-08-04 - 15:06:34 - DaveGraubart
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