P1735Minutes2012Aug6 < P1735

P1735 Web>P1735PublicDocuments>P1735Minutes2012Aug6 (2012-08-06, StevenDovich) (raw view)EditAttach
---++ IEEE P1735 Working Group Meeting of August 6, 2012

---+++ Meeting Info

[[P1735MeetingInfo][Conference Bridge and Live-Meeting]]

---+++ Participants

   * Attending 
      * Steven Dovich, Cadence _DR_
      * Jeff Fox, Altera _DR_
      * Ray Martin, Xilinx _DR_
      * John Shields, Mentor _DR_
      * Dave Clemans, Synopsys _DRA_
      * Joe Daniels, P1735 Technical Editor
      * Dave Graubart, Synopsys _DR_

   * Not Attending
      * Jarek Kaczynski, Aldec _DR_
      * Karlton Lau, Xilinx
      * Michael Smith, Synopsys _DRA_
      * Parminder Gill, Synopsys _DRA_
      * Premduth Vidyanandan, Xilinx
      * Nick Sgoupis, CAST
      * Albert Chiang, Synopsys
      * Nitin Khurana, Cadence _DRA_
      * David Pena, Cadence
      * Gary Delp, Accellera/Silver Loon Systems
      * Bin Dai, Xilinx
      * Ruchi Tyagi, Cadence _DRA_
      * Syed Huq, Cisco
      * William A Hanna, Boeing
      * Meera Srinivasan, Synopsys
      * Jim Robinson, Synopsys
      * NSS Subramanian, Cadence
      * David Tran, Synopsys

---+++ Agenda

   1 Determine Quorum
   1 [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]]
   1 Approve agenda
   1 Approval of Meeting minutes from 07/23/2012
   1 Action Items Status
   1 Liaison Reports
   1 Inter-operability Issues
   1 License Management
   1 Key Management
   1 Rights Management
   1 Common Rights and Visibility
   1 Work Plan
   1 Other Business
   1 Adjourn

---+++ Minutes

---++++ Attendance/Quorum

We have 5/6 eligible entities, and have a working quorum.

---++++ Patent Policy

The [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]] were offered for review.

No new claims were disclosed at the call for essential patent claims.  

---++++ Agenda Approval

Motion by Dave G, seconded by Ray. Motion is approved.

---++++ Previous Minutes
Jeff  moved and Ray seconded the approval of the [[P1735Minutes2012July23][July 23, 2012]] minutes. The motion was approved.

---++++ Action Item Review
Steven reviewed the open action items.

---++++ Liaison Reports
Jarek reported no activity in P1076 in the past two weeks.

Steven reported that P1800 is still in ballot comment review.

Steven reported that the DASC meeting has been postponed until the beginning of September.

---++++ Inter-operability
No activity to report.  Jarek does not believe there will be further technical material for this edition of the standard. He will review the current status to verify that nothing has been missed.

Joe confirmed that Jarek will be the technical champion for interoperability issues in the draft.

---++++ License Management
No activity to report.  Dave G reported stability with the current technical proposal and will be reaching out for review comments.

---++++ Key Management
No activity to report. 

Steven will represent key management as technical champion.

---++++ Rights Management
Dave G reported that the rights block and syntax are stable and needs to close on the specific syntax for rights.  Steven encouraged closing with representatives from P1800 and P1076 to establish agreement with the P1735 consensus, or failing that to adjust the P1735 recommendation to fit the expectations of the HDL working groups.

Jeff raise concerns from the IP producer community looking for decryption licensing.  John asked about the security risks from an external licensing solution, and noted that tool vendors would have no responsibility for key security if the decryption key was provided by the licensing solution.  To provide such a solution, we would need to modify the external license management protocol to support return of key data, add a use-case to support decryption in that manner, and modification of the pragma semantics to support that use-case.  Dave G pointed out that the license proxy protocol could be extended to support such requirements, but agreed that the likelihood of reaching closure in the next few weeks was low.

John suggested that recommending IP producers consider an obfuscation pass before encryption would be low cost from the working group perspective, but would help improve  overall IP security.

Dave G will represent license management and rights management as technical champion.

---++++ Common Rights and Visibility
John will be completing a TWiki update for approval of common rights.  He will look at the VISA/Cadence documents for possible additional common rights, and will be working on a visibility management update for the next meeting.

John will represent common rights as technical champion.


---++++ Work Plan

| *Task* | *Requirements/White Paper* | *Writer-ready Specification* |
| Use Model | 02-Jul-2008 | %RED%???%ENDCOLOR%  |
| Trust Model | %RED%???%ENDCOLOR%  | %RED%???%ENDCOLOR%  |
| Interoperability | 24-Aug-2009 | 26-Jan-2010 |
| License Management | 19-Apr-2011 | %RED%???%ENDCOLOR%  |
| Visibility Management | 23-Jul-2010 | %RED%???%ENDCOLOR%  |
| Key Management | 18-Oct-2010 | 12-Aug-2011 |
| Rights Control Structures | 27-Jun-2011 | %RED%???%ENDCOLOR%  |
| Common Rights | 23-Jul-2011 | %RED%???%ENDCOLOR%  |

Joe will present a formal schedule for completing the draft and ballot activity at the September 13 meeting.  That will require us to close contributions of technical content by August 30.

---++++ Other Business


---+++ Next Meeting

The next [[P1735MeetingInfo][P1735 meeting]] is scheduled for August 20, 2012 at 16:00UTC.

*Tentative Agenda*
   1 Determine Quorum
   1 [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]]
   1 Approve agenda
   1 Approval of Meeting minutes from 08/06/2012
   1 Action Items Status
   1 Liaison Reports
   1 Meeting Schedule
   1 Inter-operability Issues
   1 License Management
   1 Key Management
   1 Rights Management
   1 Common Rights and Visibility
   1 Work Plan
   1 Other Business
   1 Adjourn

---++++ Adjournment

Motion by John, second by Jeff. Approved by acclamation at 17:14UTC

---+++ Approval

These minutes are unapproved.

-- Main.StevenDovich - 2012-08-06
Topic revision: r2 - 2012-08-06 - 16:15:02 - StevenDovich
P1735