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---++ IEEE P1735 Working Group Meeting of October 29, 2008 

---+++ Meeting Info 

[[P1735MeetingInfo][Conference Bridge and Webex]]

---+++ Participants 

   * Attending
      * Steven Dovich, Cadence (chair)
      * Nitin Khurana, Cadence
      * Dave Clemans, Synopsys
      * Michael Smith, Synopsys
      * Nick Sgoupis, CAST
      * Karlton Lau, Xilinx
      * William A Hanna, Boeing
      * Dave Graubart, Synopsys
      * John Shields, Mentor
      * Premduth Vidyanandan, Xilinx

   * Not Attending
      * Parminder Gill, Synopsys
      * Ruchi Tyagi, Cadence
      * Meera Srinivasan, Synopsys
      * Syed Huq, Cisco
      * Jim Robinson, Synopsys
      * NSS Subramanian, Cadence
      * David Tran, Synopsys
      * Gary Delp, LSI

---+++ Agenda 

   1 Determine Quorum
   1 [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]]
   1 Approve agenda
   1 Approval of Meeting minutes from 10/22/2008
   1 Action Items Status
   1 Liaison Reports
   1 License Management
   1 Key Management Issues
   1 Other Business
   1 Adjourn

---+++ Minutes 

---++++ Attendance/Quorum 
We have 4/4 eligible entities, and have a working quorum.

---++++ Patent Policy 
 The [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]] were offered for review.

No new claims were disclosed at the call for essential patent claims.

---++++ Agenda Approval 
Motion by Dave G, seconded by Dave C. Motion is approved.

---++++ Previous Minutes 
Michael moved and Nitin seconded the approval of the [[P1735Minutes2008Oct22][October 22, 2008]] minutes.  The motion was approved.

---++++ Action Item Review
Steven reviewed the open action items.  

---++++ Liaison Reports
P1800 and P1076 drafts have been refreshed, though there have been no substantive changes in areas relevant to our scope.

---++++ License Management
Michael and Dave G reviewed the Internal vs. External licensing.  Michael noted that tool vendors could create an IP publishing entity that would share the business leverage advantages.

%ACTION{ closed="2011-06-13" closer="" created="2008-10-29" creator="Main.StevenDovich" due="" notify="" state="closed" uid="000049" who="Main.StevenDovich" }% Add tasks to schedule for Secure Dynamic Procedure Call Reference Implementation %ENDACTION%

Dave G expressed concerns about whether a reference implementation would centralize a vulnerability with respect to access to the underlying keys. Steven suggested that protecting one side of an asymmetric system might be sufficient, but that more analysis is needed.

John observed that platform portability requirements do not extend to all EDA tools. The external licensing provider gets to make that choice, not the EDA vendors or the standard.

Duth asked if there is an existing expectation of license compatibility (from the IP provider perspective) for encrypted IP, particularly if tools and licensing technologies evolve.  Dave G linked the application considerations of licensing to the rights management framework, and we should review licensing recommendations against that framework.

Dave G asked if we should refine the External case for IP Author vs third party publisher. The consensus is that they are the same case from the perspective of our scope, and no refinement is needed.  Bill suggested that a note would be sufficient.

---++++ Key Management Issues


---++++ Other Business

Duth suggested that we should consider making explicit statements about backwards and forward compatibility. Newer tools should be able to consume previously protected content.  Bill recommended _caveat emptor_ warnings around export controls. 

---++++ Adjournment 
Motion by Bill, second by Michael.  Approved by acclamation at 1:28 pm CDT

---+++ Approval
These minutes were approved at the [[P1735Minutes2008Nov17][November 17, 2008]] meeting.

-- Main.StevenDovich - 17 Nov 2008
Topic revision: r5 - 2011-06-13 - 14:35:57 - StevenDovich
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