Meeting 53 Minutes

Teleconference, July 13, 2009

A quorum of nine out of eleven voting members present. Four non-voting members are also present. Attendance and voter status indicated on the online roster.

Monday, July 13, 2009, 1600 UTC; 9:00 am Pacific Daylight Time

Attendees

• Voting members (9/11 voting members present)

  • Brett Lammers

  • Darren Galpin

  • Dave von Bank

  • Joe Hupcey

  • Mark Strickland

  • Matan Vax

  • Serrie Chapman

  • Stylianos Diamantidis

  • Tucker Brown

• Non-voting members

  • Henry von Bank

  • J.L.Gray

  • Mike Bartley

  • Michael McNamara

1. Call to order meeting 53 on July 13 at 9:03 am PDT (1602 UTC)

2. Approval of June 8 meeting 52 minutes

• Solicit motion to approve the minutes

• Serrie Chapman motioned

• Stylianos Diamantidis seconded

• Minutes approved

3. Status update

• Officer Election

  • Secretary .... to be appointed

• Action Items

  • 1 Dec 08

    • Joe H. – will identify a driver customer for each language addition on the table and ask them to join the eWG and contribute both labor and, if necessary, funding. — Pending

      • 13 July: Little progress to date, and it is rather challenging as it isn't easy to extract the info - it will take more time. Is there a list online of those who used to participate? If there is, we need to look at it and purge it - we need to look at the roster and purge it of those who are not interested, as some are not doing verification any more.
        Darren: I'll check the roster against the mailing list.
        Brett: Perhaps check why some people took themselves off the list? [Note: two did, Carl Walker from Cisco, and Alan Ahlschlager from Cadence].
        Serrie: Perhaps only check against people who have ever attended a meeting?
        Brett: Agreed
        Joe H: Agreed
        Darren: The problem is that I do not have that information, as only the results of the past four meeting was kept for voting privileges.
        Joe H: Perhaps Andy has the information?

      • 6 June: No progress to date.

      • 11 May: Brett and Joe now have access to the support database so they can search for relevant customers for each features. They will be working with their AEs on this. Brett has not yet figured how to extract the needed information but it will be labor intensive.

      • 13 Apr: Joe asked Alan Ahlschlager if he and Brett Lammers can access the support database.

      • 6 Mar: Joe is coordinating this with CDNS Support, correlating enhancement requests with P1647-2010 features. Expected to be a somewhat slow process as service requests are not currently categorized by language construct.

• Task Forces

  • Constraints (lead: Mark Strickland)

    • Named checks

    • Named constraints

    • Type constraints

    • Two documents have been reviewed and issues submitted into the bug tracking system for the first document. Mike has sent some issues via e-mail, and they need to be entered.
      Mike: Do you want me to enter them?
      Mark: Enter them - we can discuss them afterwards

  • Coverage (lead: Andrew Piziali)

    • Temporal coverage

    • In the process of identifying changes required for the 2008 LRMl

    • Will post proposed changes through the Wiki

  • Macros (lead: Matan Vax)

    • Define-as-computed

    • No real progress

    • Anticipating assistance of Cristian Amitroaie

  • Ports (lead: Yaron Kashai)

    • Interface ports

    • TLM ports as in SystemC?

    • Read through the document

    • Will post the text on the Wiki

  • Types (lead: Mike Bartley)

    • Parameterized types

    • Real data type

    • Mike and Serrie have reviewed the documents, and have e-mailed comments to Henry. To be put into Mantis.

• Encryption

  • Stylianos will tackle elaborating the encryption specification of e.

4. Other business

• Any other business?

  • Mail a message to ieee1647@edaNOSPAM.org (the general email reflector) if you were not recorded in these minutes!

  • Anticipated e LRM editor Al Kolka (Cadence) has lost his job - may still be interested, Joe H to check. Joe H to contact other members of the Specman documentation team, but they are tied up with the fall Specman release so he are not yet available. Joe H to chase this up.

  • Mark S: What is the next step?

    • Darren: Assuming things run in a similar manner to the previous release, the issues in the tracking system will be reviewed by myself and the editor, and any changes which are simply typos or text changes will be made. Larger issues which require further review can be discussed in the group or in the telephone conference, and when a decision is made the editor can make the appropriate change, and then the resulting document is reviewed again to make sure that the changes are correct.
    • Mark: What about the carry over issues?
    • Darren: We need to discuss this, perhaps in the September telecon?
    • Serrie: Why not discuss via e-mail first?
    • Mark: We could put in the issue title whether it is just for the editor or needs a bigger discussion?
    • Darren: Yes. I'll look at the status fields in Mantis to see what is there.

  • Matan: What about methods?

    • Darren: Put the issue and a synopsis of the e-mail discussion into Mantis.

5. Call for essential patents

• The IEEE-SA updated the patent policy effective April 2008

• The details are available in updated slide set at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf. (See "Patent related" from the IEEE 1647 home page, "Slides About IEEE Patent Policy").

• If you believe that any patent claims are essential patent claims, please inform the working group. Review the posted slides for more information.

6. Next meeting

• August 10 at 9 am PDT (1600 UTC)

7. Adjourn

• Mike Bartley motioned

• Matan Vax seconded

• Motion approved

• Meeting adjourned at 9:23 am PDT (16:23 UTC)

-- DarrenGalpin - 14 Jul 2009