Re: [vhdl-200x] Marketing Surveys are prohibited by IEEE

Jim,

I don't know. I haven't done this before and don't know what it
involves. I'm reluctant to get myself involved in something that I know
nothing about.

Regards,
James Goeke

On 4/26/2011 1:59 PM, Jim Lewis wrote:
> Hi James,
> Perhaps, but until we get some clarification from either
> DASC or IEEE-SA, my understanding of "engage in" includes
> reporting such results/statistical data.
>
> You have made a keen observation here. Should DASC
> decide not to comment on this issue, I would like
> to nominate you to be part of the resolution committee
> for this issue and act as the interface to IEEE-SA.
> Are you willing? :)
>
> Best,
> Jim
>
>
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> I think you are taking the right approach to clarify this issue, but
>> as I read the rule you included below I believe it OK to use
>> preexisting information.
>>
>> My $0.02 worth is the rule allows use of data that exists (first
>> sentence below). But the standards group many not ask for any NEW
>> surveys etc. without direction from legal console (second sentence
>> below).
>>
>> As I stated I think you are taking the correct steps by getting this
>> clarified.
>>
>> James Goeke
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/26/2011 11:31 AM, Jim Lewis wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> My understanding of the IEEE anti-trust is that the request
>>> and/or posting of marketing surveys and statistical data
>>> are prohibited in IEEE working groups without approval of
>>> IEEE-SA legal counsel.
>>>
>>> PLEASE DO NOT POST ANY FURTHER MARKETING SURVEYS OR
>>> COMMENT ON THE ONES STEPHEN BAILEY AND NOW JOHN ANSLEY
>>> HAVE POSTED, until we either get an agreement amongst
>>> DASC members (and I am one of these that must agree) or
>>> a clarification from IEEE-SA legal counsel.
>>>
>>> According to:
>>> http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/antitrust.pdf
>>>
>>> From page 6, section 3:
>>> _Customer Surveys and Statistical Programs._
>>> Individual participants may make presentations about broad market
>>> potential
>>> or market requirements for informational purposes.
>>> _No_ IEEE-SA standards group may engage in, direct, or encourage its
>>> members
>>> to engage in surveys of customers or gathering of _statistical data_
>>> about
>>> market requirements, _markets_, or customers without appropriate
>>> review by
>>> IEEE-SA legal counsel.
>>>
>>> As chair, IEEE holds me responsible to enforce these rules.
>>> Unfortunately this means that if someone does something like
>>> this, I have to raise an objection each time.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Jim
>>
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