RE: [vhdl-200x] Code sharing

Disconnect all this effort from the working group.

Start up a new reflector.

Disconnect effort this from IEEE, take it to a public group.

I would be willing to contribute, but not if there is even a slim chance
the work could get claimed by an agency like IEEE.

Ken

> Hi Jim,
> I do not think this has anything to do with eda.org since that is an
> independent organization that has no formal association with the IEEEE.
> The issue is what constitutes a work product of the working group and what
> is done by an independent group.
>
> I wish you luck on this. The last time I tried to fight this battle there
> was not much room to negotiate with the IEEE.
>
> Regards
> David
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-vhdl-200x@eda.org [mailto:owner-vhdl-200x@eda.org] On Behalf
> Of Jim Lewis
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:48 PM
> To: vhdl-200x@eda.org
> Subject: Re: [vhdl-200x] Code sharing
>
> Hi Joan,
> With the current economy, EDA vendors want cost effective ways of
> implementing verification features.
> One trade-off we are going to need to make is between implementing
> features as syntax and implementing features in open source sharable
> libraries.
>
> I for see the development of these libraries as open source rather than
> IEEE standards as they will need to be kept on a much shorter update and
> review cycle than IEEE balloting facilitates.
>
> At a minimum, we will need a large degree of cooperation and interaction
> between the standards group and the people developing open source
> libraries. If these open source libraries are going to be a candidate
> replacement for language syntax features, the VHDL committee may wish to
> review these libraries and comment on them on this reflector and in IEEE
> VHDL meetings.
>
> Since the set of people working on the two projects overlaps, it would be
> simpler from an administration perspective that we use a shared email
> reflector for both activities.
>
> So if we discuss what we are doing as an open source community on the
> VHDL-200X reflector (hosted on eda.org) and/or the VHDL-200X reflector is
> shared between an IEEE project and an open source VHDL library project, is
> IEEE going to make any claims to the work produced?
> If so, how do we coordinate activity between an IEEE working group and an
> open source VHDL library group?
>
> If we need a separate reflector for the open source work, do we need a
> separate reflector? I note that eda.org hosts both Accellera groups, some
> of which produce open source libraries, as well as IEEE groups.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> As you know, the IEEE owns the copyright to anything developed in the
>> WG.
> > The old packages have the IEEE copyright statement in them. Likewise,
> > IEEE would own the copyright to new packages if they are
>> developed by the WG.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Joan
>
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