RE: [vhdl-200x] Marketing Surveys are prohibited by IEEE

Evan, you are just being insulting now. How can you make such accusations without having no information on the methodology used?

-Steve

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From: owner-vhdl-200x@eda.org [mailto:owner-vhdl-200x@eda.org] On Behalf Of Evan Lavelle
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:26 PM
To: vhdl-200x@eda.org
Subject: Re: [vhdl-200x] Marketing Surveys are prohibited by IEEE

On 26/04/2011 19:05, Joanne Degroat wrote:
> All,
>
> I am not a lawyer, but if the survey results are relevant (as they are),
> public domain, not copyrighted,
>
> and available elsewhere on the web, I would see no issue in having the
> important parts as part of our information.
>
> This gets the information to the members without them having to search
> for it and possibly not having it.

But it's not "fact", as Steve called it. It's not even statistics. It's
unverifiable marketing data, produced by an unknown marketing
organisation, using unknown methods, asking unknown questions of unknown
people, commissioned by a company with an unknown agenda. What is "the
verification market" anyway? How does Mentor know who these people are,
to be in a position to be able to ask them? What qualifies as
"SystemVerilog"? How can 3% of engineers possibly still be using Vera?
Can 19% of engineers really be using SystemC for *verification*? How?
And so on.

-Evan

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