Subject: RE: [vhdl-200x] Results of PSL Advisory Vote
From: Jay Lawrence (lawrence@cadence.com)
Date: Tue Sep 16 2003 - 08:34:50 PDT
Steve,
I am a DASC member and am on the roster. I'm listed there as "Lawrence
James". I guess they took the name from the American Express used for
the membership. I'm unsure of my WG status as there has been very little
activity, but if possible please move me to the "yea" column of DASC/WG
members.
Jay
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Jay Lawrence
Senior Architect
Functional Verification
Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
(978) 262-6294
lawrence@cadence.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bailey, Stephen [mailto:SBailey@model.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:16 AM
> To: 'vhdl-200x@eda.org'
> Subject: [vhdl-200x] Results of PSL Advisory Vote
>
>
> As required by DASC and WG policy, only votes from DASC and
> WG members are counted. Furthermore, only votes that were
> received prior to the suspense date are honored. The
> original call for advisory vote is attached and clearly
> states the suspense as Friday, 12 Sep 2003, 0900 EDT.
>
> Please note that DASC membership and the subscriber list for
> vhdl-200x combined with a record of WG participation --
> primarily measured by participating in WG votes, see below --
> are the only measures of WG membership.
>
> The advisory vote passes with the votes recorded as follows:
>
> Yeas: 8
> Gabe Moretti
> John Willis
> Jim Lewis
> J. Bhasker
> John Shields
> Chuck Swart
> Robert Myers
> E.M. Lavelle
> (as is customary, the chair did not vote but would have voted Yea)
>
> Neas: 0
>
> Votes received from non-DASC members:
> (Please see http://www.dasc.org/DASC-roster.html; a
> membership application is at http://www.dasc.org)
> Ben Cohen
> Jay Lawrence
> Richard Wallace
> James Goeke
> Alex Zamfirescu
>
> Votes received past the suspense (all are also, or were not
> at the time of the vote, WG members):
> Tom Fitzpatrick
> Mark Hartoog
> Gorgon Vreugdenhil
> Karen Bartleson
> Keith Gover
> Rich Goldman
> Jayant Nagda
> Karen Pieper
> Stephen Meier
> Brad Pierce
> Mehdi Mohtashemi
>
> It is worth noting that even if all of the disallowed votes
> were counted, the advisory vote would have still passed,
> albeit by a smaller margin.
>
> I would also like to point out that there was a coordinated
> effort by employees of Synopsys to defeat the advisory vote.
> As all of the votes from these people have been disallowed as
> they came after the suspense, they did not impact the result.
> I want to make absolutely clear that this Chair will not
> allow the WG to be hijacked or derailed by such attempts.
> The IEEE and DASC provide adequate safeguards to prevent or
> disqualify this type of behavior. The first of which is that
> the WG must maintain a relative balance between users,
> producers, academics and general interest categories. The
> second of which is that the WG can collate a block of
> coordinated votes from an organization that are essentially
> identical into a single vote. Votes which are submitted as
> an organization cannot hide behind the presumption of
> individual participation that the IEEE and this WG otherwise
> presume. The third tool at the disposal of WG chairs is to
> disqualify votes if the rationale given is
> out of scope. Due to the nature of this tool, I personally
> will try to avoid using it in any but the most egregious
> circumstances.
>
> Of course, the WG Chair must validate the membership for all
> votes to be recorded. I will also be measuring the
> participation of WG members as that is a criteria.
> Participation is measured in terms of participating in WG
> votes (see email documenting membership qualifications
http://www.eda-twiki.org/vhdl-200x/hm/0051.html). Since only 8 people on the
WG reflector voted, the rest of the membership needs to be sure to
submit a vote on the next WG vote or they will be dropped from
membership (subject to reinstatement rules outlined in the referenced
email) -- but not vhdl-200x subscription .
One more comment about the Synopsys coordinated attempt to defeat the
vote: The issue of PSL being subject to change is a valid issue that
the WG and assertions team needs to be aware. However, a good faith
effort to share this information with the WG would have involved one or
two emails on the subject. Receiving 10 virtually identical emails all
from employees of the same company, the CEO of which stated earlier this
year that the company would not significantly invest in VHDL, none of
whom had subscribed to the vhdl-200x reflector and none of whom had
previously taken any active participation in any of the VHDL-200x
functional teams CAN ONLY BE SEEN AS A BAD FAITH ATTEMPT TO DELAY OR
DEFEAT THE EFFORTS OF THIS WORKING GROUP!
The WG welcomes any changes at Synopsys that would lead to good faith,
active participation in this working group. However, as long as the
behavior of representatives of Synopsys continue to reinforce the view
publicly stated by the CEO at DVCon 2003, it is fair to assume that such
behavior will be seen by other members of this WG as unlikely to be in
the best interests of this WG and VHDL.
That said, I know there are individuals at Synopsys that, if they choose
to participate, would do so in good faith. Such participation is always
welcome.
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Stephen Bailey
TME, Mentor Graphic's Model Technology Group
sbailey@model.com
303-775-1655 (mobile, preferred)
720-494-1202 (office)
www.model.com
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