Re: [sv-dc] RE: Poll for follow-on work

From: Gordon Vreugdenhil <gordonv@model.com>
Date: Mon May 09 2011 - 10:06:47 PDT

The only thing to be careful about is the definition of how
tran impacts resolution in the various connected net segments.
I think that Scott is assuming that a tran is truly the same
as a collapsed net which isn't quite the way it works in
verilog. I assume that the expectation is that the tran
is really like a (conditional) collapse with all active drivers
involved with the tran being presented to a single resolution
which then becomes the resolved value in all segments
of the tran connected network.

Gord.

On 5/9/2011 9:55 AM, Little Scott-B11206 wrote:
> Hi Jim:
>
> Yes, tran-type gates can be implemented in the user space. Tran gates are already present in SV, and I think it would be nice to extend them to user defined nettypes. In the simple case where a user wants a mechanism to "turn off" a driver with a switch, then tran gates are available. They won't meet all "switch" needs, but I think they will be a useful addition.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lear, Jim [mailto:Jim.Lear@cirrus.com]
>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 10:52 AM
>> To: Little Scott-B11206; 'sv-dc@eda.org'
>> Subject: RE: Poll for follow-on work
>>
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> Perhaps I'm misunderstanding why we need item 3, at least initially.
>> With resolved signals, tran gates can now be implemented in the user
>> space. For example, the Thevenin resistor model (see the VHDL model I
>> provided) can be changed so resistance switches between 0 and infinity
>> controlled by a third "gate" input.
>>
>> Kindest Regards,
>> Jim Lear
>> Cirrus Logic
>> (512) 851-4612
>> (512) 293-7248 (mobile)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-sv-dc@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-dc@eda.org] On Behalf Of
>> Little Scott-B11206
>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 9:44 AM
>> To: sv-dc@eda.org
>> Subject: [sv-dc] Poll for follow-on work
>>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> Below are the list of items I have collated as possible next step work
>> items. Please respond with your top 2 items. Also, please specify if
>> you are willing to participate in proposal writing for a specific item.
>> Write-in options are welcome. Please respond by Monday, May 16.
>>
>> 1. Generic interconnect
>> 2. Built-in/standard nettypes
>> 3. Nettype compatible tran gates
>> 4. Late binding/nettype override
>> 5. VPI model for nettypes
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Scott
>>
>>
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