SystemVerilog Discrete Real Modeling Committee: Re: [sv-dc] Meet

From: Kevin Cameron <edaorg@v-ms.com>
Date: Mon Mar 21 2011 - 17:21:11 PDT

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Seems a little at odds with the SV-CC posting from the 18th -

Questions for the P1800 meeting:

* Does the SV-CC need to vote by entity?

No, they continue to vote individually until P&P changes.

* Even for motions such as approving minutes and agenda?

No changes.

* Mantis is still open via the Guest login. Is this going to be changed?

No change at this point.

* Accellera gets 3 representatives... is this per committee, or total?

There are rules about designating representatives from Accellera. If

there is someone we would like to be designated as an Accellera repo,

we should contact Karen.

* Where is the DASC and/or P1800 bylaws?

They are on the web. The links will be in the P1800 minutes.

* Where is the FAQ for the new operating procedures

They are on the web. The links will be in the P1800 minutes.

* Quorum: How do we determine it?

No changes.

Kev.

On 03/21/2011 11:57 AM, Little Scott-B11206 wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> Note: The US has switched to daylight savings time.
>
> The SV-DC committee will meet on Wednesday, March 23, from 11:00-1:00 p.m. CST (GMT-05:00). The agenda and dialin information can be found below.
>
> We have received additional clarification from the P1800 working group regarding meeting participation. From Neil Korpusik, "Only employees of Entities that are voting members of the Working group will be allowed to participate in any of the Technical Committees. The Technical Committee chairs will need to start policing their meetings to ensure that only employees of the following companies are allowed to participate." I did follow up with Neil regarding participants from IEEE SA advanced and basic member companies who aren't paying members of the P1800 Working Group. Participants from these companies are allowed to join the call as observers.
>
> The paying members of the P1800 Working Group are: Accellera, Cadence, Freescale, Intel, Marvell, Mentor Graphics, Oracle, and Synopsys. TI and Qualcomm are both IEEE SA advanced member companies. The list of IEEE SA members can be found at: http://standards.ieee.org/develop/corpchan/mbrs1.html
>
> In the last meeting we had an overview of the proposal from Cadence/Mentor. In this meeting I would like to start working on consensus for various parts of the proposal. We can then expect an updated proposal in our April 6th meeting. I have tried to summarize the various points of contention that have been raised. If you see a particular facet of the proposal that you would like to discuss further not listed in the agenda please let me know, and I will add it.
>
> Agenda:
> 0. IEEE patent policy (http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt)
> 1. Discussion of proposal(s) for user-defined nets and resolution functions
> a. unresolved nettypes (purpose, restrictions, future, late binding)
> b. current value argument to the resolution function
> c. parameterized nettypes
> d. clarify rules for driving nettypes (partially driven nets ok?)
> e. resolution functions and side effects (restrict or leave as implementation dependent?)
> f. user defined initialization of nettype
> g. clarify if resolution functions operate in the case of 0 or 1 drivers
> h. possibilities for generating events from user-defined nets
> i. review port connection rules
> j. clarify that resolution functions from classes must be static and explain the intent of
> allowing resolution functions from classes?
> 2. Opens
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
> Dialin information:
> -------------------
>
> Country Number
>
> AUSTRALIA 1800009128
> AUSTRIA 0800291873
> BELGIUM 080077334
> CANADA 8008671147
> CHINA TELECOM (CT) 108001400732
> CHINA NETCOM (CNC) 108007140759
> DENMARK 80703159
> FINLAND 0800770233
> FRANCE 0800941695
> GERMANY 08001014519
> GREECE 0080016122039738
> HONG KONG 800933578
> HUNGARY 0680017180
> INDIA 000 800 650 1482
> INDONESIA 008800105607
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> ISRAEL 1809459738
> ITALY 800782388
> JAPAN 00531160427
> LUXEMBOURG 80023985
> MALAYSIA 1800808386
> MONACO 80093186
> NETHERLANDS 08002658223
> NEW ZEALAND 0800443736
> NORWAY 80057409
> POLAND 008001114672
> PORTUGAL 800819106
> RUSSIA 81080022801012
> SINGAPORE 8001011470
> SOUTH AFRICA 0800992835
> SOUTH KOREA 00308140540
> SPAIN 900967020
> SWEDEN 0201400559
> SWITZERLAND 0800563054
> TAIWAN 00801126585
> THAILAND 0018001562039684
> UNITED KINGDOM 08005280546
> UNITED STATES 8008671147
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> Access Code: 2324495
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 Seems a little at odds with the SV-CC posting from the 18th - 
 
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 Questions for the P1800 meeting:
     *
 Does the SV-CC need to vote by entity?
 No, they continue to vote individually until
 P&P
 changes. 
 
     *
 Even for motions such as approving minutes and agenda?
 No changes.
     *
 Mantis is still open via the Guest login. Is this going to be
 changed?
 No change at this point. 
 
     *
 Accellera gets 3 representatives... is this per committee, or
 total?
 There are rules about designating
 representatives from
 Accellera.  If
 there is someone we would like to be
 designated as an Accellera
 repo,
 we should contact Karen.
     *
 Where is the DASC and/or P1800 bylaws?
 They are on the web. 
 The links will be in the P1800 minutes. 
 
     *
 Where is the FAQ for the new operating procedures
 They are on the web. 
 The links will be in the P1800 minutes.
     *
 Quorum: How do we determine it?
 No changes.
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 Kev. 
 
 
 
 On 03/21/2011 11:57 AM, Little Scott-B11206 wrote:
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 <pre wrap="">Hi all:

Note: The US has switched to daylight savings time.

The SV-DC committee will meet on Wednesday, March 23, from 11:00-1:00 p.m. CST (GMT-05:00). The agenda and dialin information can be found below.

We have received additional clarification from the P1800 working group regarding meeting participation. From Neil Korpusik, "Only employees of Entities that are voting members of the Working group will be allowed to participate in any of the Technical Committees. The Technical Committee chairs will need to start policing their meetings to ensure that only employees of the following companies are allowed to participate." I did follow up with Neil regarding participants from IEEE SA advanced and basic member companies who aren't paying members of the P1800 Working Group. Participants from these companies are allowed to join the call as observers.

The paying members of the P1800 Working Group are: Accellera, Cadence, Freescale, Intel, Marvell, Mentor Graphics, Oracle, and Synopsys. TI and Qualcomm are both IEEE SA advanced member companies. The list of IEEE SA members can be found at: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://standards.ieee.org/develop/corpchan/mbrs1.html">http://standards.ieee.org/develop/corpchan/mbrs1.html</a>

In the last meeting we had an overview of the proposal from Cadence/Mentor. In this meeting I would like to start working on consensus for various parts of the proposal. We can then expect an updated proposal in our April 6th meeting. I have tried to summarize the various points of contention that have been raised. If you see a particular facet of the proposal that you would like to discuss further not listed in the agenda please let me know, and I will add it.

Agenda:
0. IEEE patent policy (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt">http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt</a>)
1. Discussion of proposal(s) for user-defined nets and resolution functions
 a. unresolved nettypes (purpose, restrictions, future, late binding)
 b. current value argument to the resolution function
 c. parameterized nettypes
 d. clarify rules for driving nettypes (partially driven nets ok?)
 e. resolution functions and side effects (restrict or leave as implementation dependent?)
 f. user defined initialization of nettype
 g. clarify if resolution functions operate in the case of 0 or 1 drivers
 h. possibilities for generating events from user-defined nets
 i. review port connection rules
 j. clarify that resolution functions from classes must be static and explain the intent of
 allowing resolution functions from classes?
2. Opens

Thanks,
Scott

Dialin information:
-------------------

Country Number

AUSTRALIA 1800009128
AUSTRIA 0800291873
BELGIUM 080077334
CANADA 8008671147
CHINA TELECOM (CT) 108001400732
CHINA NETCOM (CNC) 108007140759
DENMARK 80703159
FINLAND 0800770233
FRANCE 0800941695
GERMANY 08001014519
GREECE 0080016122039738
HONG KONG 800933578
HUNGARY 0680017180
INDIA 000 800 650 1482
INDONESIA 008800105607
IRELAND 1800944116
ISRAEL 1809459738
ITALY 800782388
JAPAN 00531160427
LUXEMBOURG 80023985
MALAYSIA 1800808386
MONACO 80093186
NETHERLANDS 08002658223
NEW ZEALAND 0800443736
NORWAY 80057409
POLAND 008001114672
PORTUGAL 800819106
RUSSIA 81080022801012
SINGAPORE 8001011470
SOUTH AFRICA 0800992835
SOUTH KOREA 00308140540
SPAIN 900967020
SWEDEN 0201400559
SWITZERLAND 0800563054
TAIWAN 00801126585
THAILAND 0018001562039684
UNITED KINGDOM 08005280546
UNITED STATES 8008671147

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