RE: [sv-ac] Question on editing for Mantis 1698

From: Lisa Piper <piper_at_.....>
Date: Fri Sep 05 2008 - 13:09:28 PDT
Hi Stuart,

 

I looked at this again and I still don't see that the descriptions are
different.  I am wondering if perhaps there were changes from some
subsequent proposal that have been entered since draft 6.   Please feel
free to call me (772-539-7733).

 

Lisa

 

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From: Stuart Sutherland [mailto:stuart@sutherland-hdl.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 3:38 PM
To: 'Korchemny, Dmitry'; sv-ac@eda.org
Cc: Lisa Piper; erik.seligman@intel.com
Subject: RE: [sv-ac] Question on editing for Mantis 1698

 

SV-AC,

 

I am still waiting for the editing instructions regarding the duplicate
example described below.  Please let me know ASAP what action to take,
or if I should just close this Mantis item and leave the duplicate
example in the LRM.

 

 

Stu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Stuart Sutherland
stuart@sutherland-hdl.com
+1-503-692-0898

www.sutherland-hdl.com



 

From: owner-sv-ac@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ac@eda.org] On Behalf Of
Korchemny, Dmitry
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 3:28 AM
To: stuart@sutherland-hdl.com; sv-ac@eda.org
Cc: Lisa Piper; Seligman, Erik
Subject: RE: [sv-ac] Question on editing for Mantis 1698

 

Is it? The only difference I could spot was the typesetting of iff in
"is a proper subexpression of posedge clock iff reset == 0." Because of
it the layout is slightly different.

 

Dmitry

 

From: Stuart Sutherland [mailto:stuart@sutherland-hdl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 1:23 PM
To: Korchemny, Dmitry; sv-ac@eda.org
Cc: 'Lisa Piper'; Seligman, Erik
Subject: RE: [sv-ac] Question on editing for Mantis 1698

 

The example appears twice, but the explanations after the examples are
different.  Should one of the duplicate examples and its explanation be
deleted or changed?

 

Stu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Stuart Sutherland
stuart@sutherland-hdl.com
+1-503-692-0898

www.sutherland-hdl.com

 

From: owner-sv-ac@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ac@eda.org] On Behalf Of
Korchemny, Dmitry
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 2:58 AM
To: stuart@sutherland-hdl.com; sv-ac@eda.org
Cc: Lisa Piper; Seligman, Erik
Subject: RE: [sv-ac] Question on editing for Mantis 1698

 

In the subclause 16.15.5 Embedding concurrent assertions in procedural
code, the text starting with "Another, more complex example that is
legal is as follows:", and ending with

 

always @(posedge mclk) begin

#10 q <= d1; // delay prevents clock inference

@(negedge mclk) // event control prevents clock inference

#10 q1 <= !d1;

r5_p: assert property (r5); // no inferred clock

end

 

 has been inserted twice.

 

Dmitry

 

From: Stuart Sutherland [mailto:stuart@sutherland-hdl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 12:48 PM
To: Korchemny, Dmitry; sv-ac@eda.org
Cc: 'Lisa Piper'; Seligman, Erik
Subject: RE: [sv-ac] Question on editing for Mantis 1698

 

Thanks for the clarification.  Now I know what needs to be corrected for
item 1 of bug note 7090.  What needs to be corrected to fix the
duplicate text and example indicated in item 2 of that bug note? 

 

Stu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Stuart Sutherland
stuart@sutherland-hdl.com
+1-503-692-0898

www.sutherland-hdl.com

 

From: owner-sv-ac@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ac@eda.org] On Behalf Of
Korchemny, Dmitry
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 1:12 AM
To: stuart@sutherland-hdl.com; sv-ac@eda.org
Cc: Lisa Piper; Seligman, Erik
Subject: RE: [sv-ac] Question on editing for Mantis 1698

 

Hi Stu,

 

This is only the matter of coloring: "sampled" should be deleted, while
"value" remains unchanged.

 

Regards,

Dmitry

 

From: Stuart Sutherland [mailto:stuart@sutherland-hdl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 11:07 AM
To: Korchemny, Dmitry; sv-ac@eda.org
Cc: 'Lisa Piper'; Seligman, Erik
Subject: RE: [sv-ac] Question on editing for Mantis 1698

 

Dmitry,

 

Thanks, but I still cannot make sense out of what editing changes are
required.  As far as I can tell, the "While it should be" text you have
provided is identical to the current text.

 

It would be best to align the change instructions to the clean version
of draft 6.  The instructions need to be explicit, showing exactly what
text is being deleted or added.  Once again, do not use page numbers.
The page numbers in the work-in-progress draft 7 do not match any
previous draft.

 

Stu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Stuart Sutherland
stuart@sutherland-hdl.com
+1-503-692-0898

www.sutherland-hdl.com

 

From: owner-sv-ac@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ac@eda.org] On Behalf Of
Korchemny, Dmitry
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 10:45 PM
To: stuart@sutherland-hdl.com; sv-ac@eda.org
Cc: Lisa Piper; Seligman, Erik
Subject: RE: [sv-ac] Question on editing for Mantis 1698

 

Hi Stu,

 

Here is my understanding of these notes:

 

Note 7090:

 

16.9.4 Sampled value functions

Page 333 (next page after Figure 16-4-Value change expressions):

 

There is a new line after

 

expression1 and expression2 can may be any expression allowed in
assertions. If expression2 is not specified,

then it defaults to 1'b1.

 

In Draft 6. This new line is redundant.

 

Then it is written:

 

$past returns the sampled value of the expression expression1 that was
present number_of_ticks prior to the time

of evaluation of $past. sampled in the Preponed region of a particular
timestep strictly prior to the one in

which $past is evaluated.

 

While should be:

 

$past returns the sampled value of the expression expression1 that was
present number_of_ticks prior to the time

of evaluation of $past. sampled in the Preponed region of a particular
timestep strictly prior to the one in

which $past is evaluated.

 

Note 7131:

 

Same thing as the second part of 7090.

 

Regards,

Dmitry

 

From: owner-sv-ac@server.eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ac@server.eda.org] On
Behalf Of Stuart Sutherland
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 7:39 AM
To: sv-ac@server.eda.org
Subject: [sv-ac] Question on editing for Mantis 1698

 

Can someone please define the exact corrections that are needed for bug
note 7090 in Mantis 1698? Please be sure to include subclause numbers.
Page numbers are meaningless, as they change frequently.

 

Also, bug note 7131 is an observation.  Is any correction needed?

 

Stu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Stuart Sutherland
stuart@sutherland-hdl.com
+1-503-692-0898

www.sutherland-hdl.com


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