Hi Folks: Our ballot on 1756 failed due to a negative vote. See the details below. J.H. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ballot on Mantis 1756 - Called on 2007-10-16, final ballots due at 2007-10-23 T 23:59-07:00. v[xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xx] Doron Bustan (Intel) yv[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-x] Eduard Cerny (Synopsys) n[-----------x-xxx---------x-x-xxx-x---x] Surrendra Dudani (Synopsys) yv[xxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xx-xxxxx-xxx-xxx-------] Yaniv Fais (Freescale) t[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] John Havlicek (Freescale - Chair) v[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxrxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxx] Dmitry Korchemny (Intel - Co-Chair) v[xxxx-xxx-x--xx--xxxxx----------xx-xxxx] Manisha Kulshrestha (Mentor Graphics) n[-------------------xxxxx-------x-xx-x-] Jiang Long (Mentor Graphics) n[-----------x--xxx.....................] Joseph Lu (Altera) v[xxxxxxxx..............................] Johan Martensson (Jasper) n[----------------x--x-xx--xx-xxxxxxx-x-] Hillel Miller (Freescale) yv[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx] Lisa Piper (Cadence) yv[xx-xxxxxxx-x-xxxxx-x..................] Erik Seligman (Intel) n[---x--------xxxx-----xxxx-xx----------] Tej Singh (Mentor Graphics) yv[xxxx--xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Bassam Tabbara (Synopsys) nv[xxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx...............] Tom Thatcher (Sun Microsystems) |------------------------------------- attendance on 2007-10-16 |--------------------------------------- voting eligibility for this ballot |---------------------------------------- email ballots received Legend: x = attended - = missed r = represented . = not yet a member v = valid voter (2 out of last 3 or 3/4 overall) n = not valid voter t = chair eligible to vote only to make or break a tie ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rationale for Negative Vote: [TT] I have the same concern that Manisha expressed: that a simulation could be broken by a user adding a $assertoff or $assertkill at time 0. The only reason I see that you might want to check an assertion only on the first clock edge would be to check reset values in a design. If the designer puts a concurrent assertion in an initial block to check reset values, a different engineer could then add a $assertoff at time zero, and now the assertion fires because it is evaluated long past reset. Is there some important use model that I am missing? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.Received on Wed Oct 24 05:52:57 2007
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