[sv-champions] Reminder: March 13 conference call

From: Neil Korpusik <Neil.Korpusik_at_.....>
Date: Wed Mar 12 2008 - 18:43:58 PDT
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Our next conference call is scheduled for March 13th, 8-10am PDT

    Thursday March 13th, 2008   8-10am PDT


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List of Mantis items that are ready for review:
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1.  2219  SV-BC  not clear whether continuous assignment of event is allowed
    - fixed
    - On February 18, 2008 the SV-BC unanimously approved this proposal 
      via e-mail ballot.

2.  2173  SV-AC  Add case construct for properties.
    - fixed
    - 2008-02-26: Voice vote to approve proposal and friendly amendments, 
      7y/1n/0a. MK voted no: The reason is that I do not think it adds any 
      critical functionality. The friendly amendments were implemented in 
      2173_prop_case_080226_yf.pdf.

3.  2106  SV-BC  Clarifications needed for declaration before use of objects 
                 and type
    - fixed
    - Champions feedback for this Mantis item was placed into Mantis item 2304. 
      This was agreed to in the Champions conference call of February 25, 2008. 
      The Champions however neglected to vote on the proposal for 2106.  
      Mantis item 2106 will have to go back to the Champions for a vote.

4.  2100  SV-AC  Add synchronous resets syntax as oppose to the asynchronous 
                 nature of accept_on/reject_on
    - fixed
    - 2008-02-21: Voice vote to approve, 7y/0n/0a.

5.  2097  SV-BC  release/deassign with variables driven by continuous 
                 assignments
    - fixed
    - The proposal was sent back to the SV-BC by the
      Champions in the January 17th, 2008 conference call.
      The latest Email thread concerning Mantis item 2235 needs to be addressed.
    - On February 18, 2008 the SV-BC unanimously approved the attached proposal

6.  2069  SV-AC  Formal semantics for coverage is missing
    - fixed
    - 2008-02-13: Passed by e-mail ballot, 6y/0n/3a.

7.  2043  SV-BC  $cast should appear in 19.5 Conversion functions
    - no change required
    - On February 18, 2008 the SV-BC unanimously approved

8.  2005  SV-AC  Solution for glitch problem in immediate assertions
    - fixed
    - This Mantis item was in the feedback state during the review period
      for the Champions Feb 25, 2008 conference call. It will need to be
      reviewed for the next Champions meeting.
    - There is minor feedback from the cc

9.  1982  SV-AC  16.7: Description of actual arguments is unclear and maybe 
                 also inconsistent with other description of $
    - duplicate
    -  2008-02-19 6y/0n/0a.

10. 1932  SV-AC  Introduce LTL and other temporal operators
    - fixed
    - Failed Champions email vote of Feb 23, 2008. 
    - It appears that the changes have been made and it is ready for another
      review by the champions.
    - 2008-02-26: Voice vote to approve LTL.1932.080224.pdf and 
      LTL_Formal.080225.pdf, 9y/0n/0a.

11. 1901  SV-AC  Cycle delay for ## concatenation allows identifier to specify 
                 the delay w/o retsricting to constant epxr
    - fixed
    - 2008-02-28: Voice vote 7y/0n/0a

12. 1852  SV-AC  Ballot Feedback Issue STU2: Declarations on Assertions
    - duplicate
    - 2008-02-19: This issue has been addressed in 1549. Voice vote to 
      approve state change to "resolved,duplicate": 6y/0n/0a. 

13. 1849  SV-AC  Update VPI object diagrams for immediate assume, cover
    - duplicate

14. 1837  SV-CC  Wrong outline for net in VPI generate diagram
    - fixed
    - was sent back to svcc from champions Oct 25
    - was updated and approved by svcc 
      On 01/30/2008 the SV-CC PASSED an amended proposal to solve the issues
      found by the Champions committee. (unanimous) 

15. 1833  SV-AC  JEITA: 16.3 Precise definition of immediate assertion
    - duplicate
    - voice vote 7y/0n/0a

16. 1830  SV-AC  JEITA: A.2.10 There are no Sequence methods(ended, triggered, 
                 matched) in the BNF
    - fixed
    - 2008-02-19: The friendly amendments were approved by voice vote, 6y/0n/0a.

17. 1828  SV-BC  JEITA: 9.2.2.3, 9.2.2.4 should/can and mandatory statements
    - fixed
    -  On February 18, 2008 the SV-BC approved the attached proposal.
       The approval was not unanimous:

       For: Gord, Shalom, Cliff, Karen, Don Heath Stu, Tom
       Opposed:
	   Brad (If check is recommended, the check should be well-defined)
	   Mark (If check is recommended, the check should be well-defined)
	   Steven (Small change, unnecessary and shares opinion of Mark/Brad)
	Abstain:
	   Alex (Likes current text but does not feel strongly either way)

18. 1806  SV-AC  Introduce "restrict property" verification statement
    - fixed
    - 2008-02-26: Voice vote to approve friendly amendments, 9y/0n/0a.

19. 1786  SV-AC  Definition of "if else" in Annex F seems broken
    - duplicate
    - 2008-02-19: This issue was fixed in the proposal for 1932. Voice vote 
      to approve state change to "resolved,duplicate": 6y/0n/0a.

20. 1698  SV-AC  The description of sampled value functions is insufficient
    - fixed
    - 2008-08-26: Voice vote to approve friendly amendment from DK, 9y/0n/0a.

21. 1687  SV-AC  Wrong equivalence for $isunknown
    - fixed
    - 2008-02-19: Voice vote to approve, 6y/0n/0a.

22. 1686  SV-AC  assertion evaluation does not wait on subroutines
    - fixed
    - 2008-02-14: Passed by e-mail ballot, 8y/0n/1a.

23. 1648  SV-AC  Default reset for assertions
    - fixed
    - was sent back to the svac by the champions Jan 17
    - has been updated and re-approved 
      2008-02-05: voice vote to approve the proposal dated 2008-01-31. 8y/0n/0a

24. 1601  SV-AC  new keyword for untyped formal arguments
    - fixed
    - Was sent to ec for review by the champions 
      The ec decided to take no action at this time.

25. 1599  SV-AC  The assertion API and VPI sections need changes as per 
                 mantis #805
    - fixed
    - made changes for the cc
    - approved by the cc

26. 1564  SV-BC  4.16, glossary: inconsistent definitions of bit-stream type
    - duplicate
    - On February 18, 2008 the SV-BC unanimously approved

27. 1340  SV-BC  inconsistency between module ports and task arguments
    - fixed
    - was sent back to bc from champions
    - svbc has reapproved the proposal

28. 1230  SV-CC  How to represent packed arrays of complex types in VPI
    - fixed
    - The proposal PASSED the SV-CC as amended on 02/27/2008 (unanimous).

29. 0588  SV-CC  31.9 uses the term "user", and has grammatically incorrect 
                 sentences
    - duplicate
    - The SV-CC voted to declare this a duplicate of Item 572 on 02/13/2008 
      (unanimous). 

30. 0587  SV-CC  31.8.7 Please replace the term "user" with a more accurate term
    - Duplicate
    - The SV-CC voted to declare this a duplicate of Item 572 on 02/13/2008 
      (unanimous).

31. 1900  SV-AC  Add new 'checker' construct to SVA

32. 2089  SV-AC  Allow checker construct (0001900) to include final blocks with 
                 immediate assertions
    - fixed
    - Made changes requested by the svec
    - 2008-02-27: e-mail vote passed, 6y/0n/3a
    - svec requested that this be reviewed as a group and not as an individual
      mantis item. The svec requested to review all of the checker related
      mantis items together. 

33. 2088  SV-AC  Allow Checker construct (0001900) to include covergroups
    - fixed
    - Made changes requested by the svec. 
    - 2008-02-28: Voice vote 7y/0n/0a
    - svec requested that this be reviewed as a group and not as an individual
      mantis item. The svec requested to review all of the checker related
      mantis items together. 

34. 2110  SV-AC  Allow checkers in procedural for loops
    - fixed
    - related to checkers
    - Dependency on 1900 and 1995 being approved (1995 was approved)
    - 2008-02-11: Passed by e-mail vote, 5y/0n/4a.
      There were friendly amendments.
    - Friendly amendments approved by voice vote on 2008-02-12, 8y/0n/0a.
    - Part of the Champion's email vote ending Feb 23.

        For: Surrendra
    Abstain: Brad - depends on 1900, which is still in feedback state
             Shalom - I think this should be postponed till approval of 1900.
             Francoise
         No: Stu, John

    Stu
       Checkers is too big of a change to the standard to be added at this late
       date.  Checkers affect, or are affected by, many different parts of the
       standard.  All SV committees need several weeks to study the impact of
       checkers.
    John
       Rationale for negative vote:  I think that 2088 is changing in response
       to comments from SV-EC in a way that will not be consistent with the
       conditional changes on pp. 4-5.  In particular, I am concerned about
       whether a covergroup declaration will be allowed in a checker.

    Friendly amendments:
    John
       - Smart quotes should not be used in the courier examples.
       - In the example beginning at the bottom of p. 2, the sampled value of
         ok is 1'b1 in the first timestep in which there is a posedge of clk
         due to the initialization assignment.  It is true, although perhaps
         misleading, to say that the sampled value is always equal to
         (my_bits[3] == 0).  This assumes, of course, that no other code
         updates my_bits.  The declaration of control_variable_copy is not
         shown, and we do not know what its sampled      value is in the first
         timestep in which there is a posedge of clk.
    <we ran out of time before discussing this item in the feb 25 conf. call>


Mantis items in the resolved state which are not ready for the Champions:
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1.  2250  SV-AC  VPI changes related to 1932 
    waiting for input from the svcc

2.  2182  SV-AC  Elaborate VPI diagrams for checkers
    waiting for input from the svcc

3.  2168  SV-AC  Formal semantics for edge-sensitive clocks
    Has already been approved by the Champions - needs to go to Working Group

4.  2163  SV-BC  Clarify hierarchical scopes created (or not) by for and 
                 foreach loops
    Was already approved by Champions with friendly amendments. 
    It is now ready for the working group. 

5.  2150  SV-AC  use of automatic variables in action block and subroutine 
                 calls should not be allowed
    Was already approved by Champions with friendly amendments. 
    It is now ready for the working group. 

6.  2091  SV-AC  Need a clarification where concurrent assertions may appear
    - fixed
    - was approved by champions with friendly amendments

7.  1987  SV-AC  Change "verification statement" to "assertion" or "assertion 
                 statement" and add to the glossary
    - fixed
    - already approved by the champions (with friendly amendments)

8.  1728  SV-AC  Introduce "let"statement
    - fixed
    - was already approved by the champions

9.  1447  SV-EC  Contradictory stmts about unsized array dimensions 
                 (5.1 vs. 5.7 and 5.8)
    - was already approved by the champions
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