Unapproved minutes of the sv-xc meeting. Oct 17, 2007

Hi

I have made slight changes to the minutes that I posted
earlier and added the "Pending action items" at the end 
of minutes. 

Thanks

Logie. 

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Unapproved minutes of the SV-XC Committee Meeting
Date:    Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007
Time:    08:00am - 10:00 am PST

Attendees
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pp--p-pppp--pppp-p  Somdipta Roy (TI)
pppppppppppppppppp  Logie Ramachandran (Synopsys)
--p--p-pp-ppp-pppp  Ulli Holtmann (Synopsys)
------p-pp-pp-pppp  Tapan Halder (Synopsys)
p-p-pp---pp--ppppp  Bob Shur (Cadence)
-------------pp--p  Rob Slater (Freescale)
p-pppp---ppppppppp  Arnab Saha (Mentor)
ppp-pp-pp-pppp-p-p  John Shields (Mentor)
-p-p-pp---pppppppp  Amit Kohli (Cadence)
p-ppppppppppp-pppp  Kathy McKinley(Cadence)
----------------pp  Scott Cranston(Cadence)
-------p-p-ppp-p-p  Kevin Camaron(Sonics)
-----------------p  Michael Williams (Cadence)
-----------------p  Sudip Chakrabarti (Synopsys)
----------------p-  John Stickley (Mentor)
-pppp-ppp--p-pppp-  NS Subramanian (Cadence)
--------p------p--  Geoffrey Coram (Analog Devices)
p-pp--p-p---ppp---  Nitin Khurana  (Cadence)
p-p-pp-p-pppppp---  Micheal Rohleder (Freescale)
-----------p-pp---  Don Ticarich(Sonics)
-----------p------  Thanapoom Lertpanyavit(Intel)
-p-pppp-----------  Rudra Mukherjee (Mentor)
-----pp-----------  Hassan Shahab (Intel)
-pppp-------------  Gaurav Kumar Verma (Mentor)
p-----------------  Jonathan David (Scintera)

Agenda

+ Review IEEE patent policy
http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt

(Vote) Bob moves it has been read. 
       Kathy seconds. 
       No objections. No abstains. Motion passes

+ Binding Proposals

  John  will work up with a full proposal for mixed language 
  binding SV-XC later this year. 

  Kathy mentioned that she will not have enough resources
  to work on a large proposal. 


+ Momentum/Technical participation

    Committee discussed the lack of momentum in the group
    compared to other sv committees. There have been very limited
    technical contributions so far. 
    
    Committee revisited the end user interest in SV-XC. 
    Somdipta mentioned that he was interested in SV and Mixed 
    Signal interaction originally. Now he sees growing interest
    in the digital side  w.r.t  language interactions.
    There is also a desire to use SV testbench to interact with
    AMS or VHDL or SystemC blocks/modules. 
    
    Do we need more collaborative website (like wiki)? It was not 
    clear  if this would help improve technical discussions. 

    Committee felt that splitting into language based subgroups
    will not help increase technical contributions. 

    Committee discussed the fact that we will not be able to 
    meet the deadline for the next LRM and whether we should
    be tied to the SystemVerilog LRM schedule. Another concern
    from Kathy is that the SV LRM may not be the best vehicle
    to deliver  the standards since it touches multiple languages. 
    
    Kathy will initiate discussions on the reflector
       (a)  about technical participation 
       (b)  other options for delivery
    of the standard.  

    We will meet in  two weeks to discuss possible improvements
    in the committee operations.

+ Frequency of meeting
   
    Kathy raised the question whether there is sufficient momentum
    to continue biweekly meetings.


+  Adjournment motion
John moves that we adjourn, Kathy seconds


+ Pending Action Items (from previous meetings)

(A/I John) will come up with requirements for opaque connections
       Status: John has Posted on the reflector. 
               http://www.eda-stds.org/sv-xc/hm/0142.html
               Pending approval by committee
            
(A/I Kathy) will come up with requirements for object kind compatibility
      (wires/variables/signals)  requirements.
     
  

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+ Additional information:

1. Committee website: http://www.eda-twiki.org/sv-xc
2. Survey for users : http://www.eda-twiki.org/sv-xc/otherdocs/survey1.0.txt
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