[P1800] Continuation of the August 14 P1800 Meeting

From: Karen Pieper <karen_l_pieper_at_.....>
Date: Thu Aug 14 2008 - 09:48:16 PDT
Hi, all,

We will continue the August 14 P1800 meeting on August 28, 8am Pacific Time.  Contact info to come.

The current draft of the August 14 minutes can be found at:

http://www.eda-twiki.org/cgi-bin/view.cgi/P1800/P1800Meeting08142008

The files we reviewed in the August 14 conference call are attached.  

Thanks,

Karen


      
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List of Mantis items approved by the Champions in the following meetings:

 July   10
 July   24
 July   31
 August  7



List of Mantis items unanimously approved by both the TCs and the Champions
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
(19 mantis items)

 1.  2431  SV-AC  Addressing editor issue regarding \equiv operator definition
    - Fixed
    - Unanimously approved by sv-ac by voice vote 2008-06-30: 5y/0n/0a


 2.  2326  SV-AC  add VPI diagrams for property case
    - Fixed
    - Unanimously approved by the sv-ac 2008-03-20: Voice vote 5y/0n/0a
    - The SV-CC reviewed this on 04/09/2008 and PASSED it (unanimous).
    - The proposal was deferred by the Champions in the April 24th, 2008
      conference call until 0002173 is completed.
    - aligned with Draft6. Approved by voice vote 2008-06-30: 5y/0n/0a


 3. 1076  SV-BC  Misuse of term reg in 17.2.4.4 (1364)
    - No change required
    - On June 23, 2008 the SV-BC unanimously approved resolving this issue 
      with no further action as it was addressed during the merge of the 1364 
      and 1800 LRMs. 


 4. 2127  SV-BC  Clarify event scheduling of sequential UDPs
    - Duplicate
    - On June 23, 2008 the SV-BC unanimously approved resolution of this issue 
      with no further action as it is a duplicate of 0001062.


 5. 2360  SV-BC  Missing Initialization Vector spec for Encryption breaks 
             portability for all CBC algorithms
    - Fixed
    - On June 9, 2008 the SV-BC unanimously approved the proposal with
      the friendly amendments noted here on the SV-BC reflector:


 6.  2094  SV-CC  Need to extend VPI to handle class specializations
    - Fixed
    - The SV-CC PASSED this on 03/26/2008 (unanimous)
    - The proposal was unanimously approved by the Champions in the
      April 10th, 2008 conference call with friendly amendments.
    - On 05/21/2008 the SV-CC approved the latest proposal for this issue. 
      (unanimous)


 7.  2370  SV-SC  Inferred clock ambiguities with the sampled functions 
		 - Champions feedback on 1698
    - duplicate


 8.  2415  SV-SC  Allow using .triggered methods in sequences
    - fixed
    - Passed in SV-SC vote closing 2008-07-16, 10y/0n/3a.


 9. 1728  SV-SC  Introduce "let"statement
   - fixed
   - Sent to sv-sc by the Working Group March 27
   - Sent back to sv-sc by Champions July 24 (mostly editorial changes)
   - SV-SC voted at 2008-07-29 mtg to approve Dmitry's updated proposal, 
     which addresses the issues posed by the champions.
       Abstain: Tom, Steve, Manisha     Passes: 8y, 0n, 3a
   - The sv-sc made another small update, based on input from Shalom. 

10.  2327  SV-AC  2173 adds property case, need to add vacuity definition and 
		multi clocking behavior in it
   - fixed
   - approved by voice vote 2008-06-30: 5y/0n/0a
   - sent back to the technical committee by the Champions in the July 10th, 
     conference call.
   - Passed by email vote 5y/0n/0a called 2008-07-23


11.  2110  SV-SC  Allow checkers in procedural for loops
    - duplicate
    - SV-SC voted to close in email vote ending 2008-07-21.
      Feature is now incorporated into 1900.  7y/0n/0ea/6ia
      (ea = explicit abstain, ia = implied abstain by not sending email)


12.  2411  SV-SC  Allow using triggered method in sequences
    - duplicate
    - SV-SC voted to close as duplicate in email vote ending 2008-07-21.
      This is exactly the same proposal as 2415, accidentally entered twice.
      7y/0n/0ea/6ia
      (ea = explicit abstain, ia = implied abstain by not sending email)


13.  2089  SV-SC  Allow checker construct (0001900) to include final blocks 
		  with immediate assertions
    - duplicate
    - SV-SC voted to close as duplicate, in email vote ending 2008-07-21,
      since feature is now included in 1900.  7y/0n/0ea/6ia
 
      (ea = explicit abstain, ia = implied abstain by not sending email)


14.  1809  SV-BC  forward references into $unit package
    - fixed
    - On March 25, 2008 the SV-BC unanimously approved the attached proposal.
    - The proposal was unanimously approved by the Champions in the
      April 24th, 2008 conference call.
    - The proposal was unanimously approved by the Working Group
      in the conference call of May 01, 2008.
    - Editor Note: I spent considerable time trying to add this proposal into
      Draft 6, and finally had to back everything back out. 
    - On July 21, 2008, the SV-BC approved the updated proposal (1809-v9.htm)
      to address this issue.
      The vote was not unanimous. Shalom Bresticker abstained because he did
      not have enough time to review the proposal.


15. 2428  SV-EC  There is a typo in the example of section 18.6 (page 468) 
		 i[1] is incorrect, it should be i[0]
    - fixed
    - Approved on July 21 2008, minor editorial changes


16.  2448  SV-BC  BNF for packed arrays of enums
    - fixed
    - On July 21, 2008 the SV-BC unanimously approved the attached proposal
      to resolve this issue.


17.   1835 SV-CC  JEITA: APIs Give a overarching name for APIs
    - fixed
    - The SV-CC PASSED this option on 07/30/2008. (unanimous)
    - The latest proposal is a frame file
      The .pdf file is definitive, and is the one that the
      SV-CC voted on and approved. [Re: Jim Vellenga]


18.   529 SV-CC 27.21 & 27.22 Cannot get a handle to a class instance
    - duplicate
    - On 07/30/2008 the SV-CC voted to declare this a DUPLICATE of Item 0528.


19.   2447 SV-CC  VPI data model needs to include enum vars in packed arrays 
		(#1230 changes) pending SV-BC change (#2374).
    - fixed
    - The SV-CC PASSED this proposal on 07/30/2008 (unanimous).



List of Mantis items approved by the Champions with friendly amendments
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
(6  mantis items)


20.  2173  SV-AC  Add case construct for properties.
    - Fixed
    - Unanimously approved by the SV-AC 2008-03-20: Voice vote 5y/0n/0a
    - Champions sent it to sv-bc for review
    - It was updated with SV-BC feedback and aligned to draft 6
      Re-approved by the sv-ac by voice vote 2008-06-30: 5y/0n/0a

              Move: Brad - Approve the proposal for Mantis item 2173 with a 
			   friendly amendment to change 'wait' to 'delay' 
			   in the example
            Second: Dave - It needs to also be updated on mantis before going 
			   to the working group


21.  2414  SV-SC  VPI for let
    - fixed
    - Passed voice vote in SV-SC meeting, 2008-07-22.  11y/0n/1a
      Mike Burns abstained due to lack of VPI expertise.


22.  2398  SV-SC  More consistent semantics for concurrent assertions in 
		  procedural code
    - fixed
    - Passed by voice vote at SV-SC meeting 2008-07-22, conditional on minor 
      edit implemented in version posted by Erik Seligman on 2008-07-23.
      12y/0n/0a


23.   742 SV-CC Need VPI info on parameters that are types
    - fixed
    - The proposal was sent back to the technical committee by the Champions 
      in the July 10th, 2008 conference call. The vote was unanimous.
    - The SV-CC PASSED this proposal on 07/30/2008 (unanimous). 


24.   2396  SV-SC  Add edge identifier edge for events
    - fixed
    - Passed by voice vote in SV-SC meeting, 2008-07-22.  11y/0n/1a
      Abstains: Lisa - just not sure, seems like there are other ways to do it.
    - The proposal was sent back to the SV-SC by the
      Champions in the July 31st, 2008 conference call.
    - SV-SC approved latest edit in 2008-08-05 mtg. 9y/0n/0a.

      Move: Shalom - approve the proposal for Mantis 2396 , with Editorial
		     amendments that are listed in the bug note, the change
		     to last sentence before 29.4.3 also needs to be updated.
    Second: Dave
   Abstain: Brad - doesn't think it is necessary, thinks it is confusing.
		   1. Some people will think that @ some_name is level 
		      sensitive instead of edge sensitive
		   2. Doesn't like that all the editorial issues were ignored.


25.   2434  SV-SC  Changes to seq/prop defaults and typing of actuals
    - fixed
    - Passed in voice vote at SV-SC meeting, 2008-07-22.  9y/1n/0a
      Mark Hartoog votes no - not needed, creates backwards compatibility
         issues. Clarification - not 100% sure about the note at the end, but 
	 the whole basic idea of casting these expressions to their 
	 self-determined type has the potential to create very subtle 
	 backwards compatibility issues per the face-to-face.
    - The proposal was sent back to the SV-SC by the
      Champions in the July 31st, 2008 conference call.


List of Mantis items approved by the Champions with some abstains
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
( 1 mantis items)

26. 2054  SV-CC  Draft 3a, Section 40 - Deprecate Data Read API
    - Fixed
    - The SV-CC PASSED this on 03/26/2008
      3 opposed: Michael, Francoise, Ghassan
      1 abstain: Bassam
      6 in favor: Abi, John, Chuck, Jim, Steve, Anil
    - The proposal was approved by the Champions in the April 10th, 2008
      conference call with friendly amendments.
      There was one abstain. (Brad - doesn't know enough about it)
    - The proposal was updated.
    - On 05/21/2008 the SV-CC approved the latest proposal for this issue. 
      (unanimous)
 
      FM   -  was concerned about removing the data read API.


              Move: FM - approve the proposal for Mantis item 2054
            Second: John
           Abstain: Shalom - Removes an essential capability to transfer 
			     simulation data between tools. There isn't a 
			     replacement for it. 
		    Brad -   Agrees with Shalom. Thinks it was a political
			     decision. 
			     Technically it should be there. 
            Passed (3 in favor and 2 abstains)

      Note: In the meeting I mentioned that I would check the Operating 
	    Guidelines to determine if it should be considered passed. 
	    According to the latest guidelines it does pass.



List of Mantis items contingently approved by the Champions 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
( 1 mantis items)

27.  2088  SV-SC  Allow Checker construct (0001900) to include covergroups
    - fixed
    - Passed by voice vote at SV-SC meeting 2008-07-22, conditional on Tom 
      reviewing p3 example with two identical bins after return from vacation: 
      did he intend this legal but odd case to illustrate something subtle, or 
      should we replace it with a more typical case of disjoint bins?
	 8y/0n/4a

      Abstains:
    - Gordon based on email vote, likely to be substantive user-based issues 
      resulting in implementation divergence. Risk factors are too high. 
      Addresses current user needs, but will have future changes.
    - Steven based on same issues as Gord and hasn't reviewed the proposal.
    - Mirek: No expertise in cover groups.
    - Manisha: Agrees with Gordon



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