[P1800] 1 May 2008-UNAPPROVED Meeting Minutes

From: Brophy, Dennis <dennisb_at_.....>
Date: Fri May 02 2008 - 10:03:45 PDT
All,

Please review and let me know if there are any changes needed.

-Dennis 
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IEEE P1800 SystemVerilog Working Group

UNAPPROVED MINUTES

1 May 2008

8:00 a.m. - 10:00 p.m. PST

Teleconference

 


1          CALL TO ORDER - INTRODUCTIONS & AFFILIATIONS

The meeting was called to order at 8:09 a.m. PDT.

 

Member DRs/DRAs Present: 

Dennis Brophy (Mentor Graphics, DR) 

Mehdi Mohtashemi (Synopsys, DR)

Shalom Bresticker (Intel, DRA)

Charles Dawson (Cadence, DR)

Neil Korpusik (Sun Microsystems, DR)

Karen Pieper (Accellera, DR)

 

Member DRAs Present:

Dave Rich (Mentor)

 

Observers:

Stu Sutherland (Sutherland HDL - Editor)


2          APPROVE AGENDA


A motion (Dennis Brophy, Neil Korpusik) was made to approve the agenda.
The motion passed unanimously.


3          CALL FOR PATENTS 

Chair Pieper read the IEEE patent slides.
See: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt

 

Chair Pieper directed the group's attention to the URL for the patent
policy.

 

4          Approval of the March 27, 2008 Meeting Minutes

 

The minutes did not get sent out of the reflector in advance of the
meeting.  A resend during the meeting did make it out.  Approval of the
minutes will be done at the next meeting.

 

5          Funding, Budgeting, and Financial Update

Update on invoicing

Chair Pieper reviewed the budget and indicated we would have about $2K
spare in the budget at the end of the year.  The question was do we want
to allocate more than the $6K budgeted since this is the 2009
assessment.  Since many members have new budget cycles that begin in
mid-2008, we cannot wait until next year to adjust the amount.  We will
keep with the $1.1K now and $6K next year after committee discussion. 

 

6          Editing update

The new drafts are up with bookmarks missing.  They will be reposted
with the bookmarks working again.  Dennis will talk to Stu about having
him generate the encrypted versions of the drafts.

 

7          Schedule Status Update 

Karen updated some of these details during the meeting.  See Tiwki for
current schedule status. 

 

We agreed that all the committees would freeze on 4/15 and we are frozen
except for Champions work underway.  The schedule below was reviewed
with proposed new teleconference dates. 

 

*           April 15, 2008 SV-CC freeze / All committees freeze except
for 

*           ------------- new Assertions integration committee 

*           ------------- other committee's response to champions, draft
edits, etc. 

*           April 30, 2008 Approximate date for Draft 5 

*           April 24, 2008 Champions meeting to approve final features 

*           May 1, 2008 Teleconference 8am 

*           May 29, 2008 Teleconference 8am 

*           ------------- Approximate date for Draft 6 

*           -------------- Proposed IEEE submission for third paid
review 

*           June 26, 2008 Teleconference 8am 

*           July 1, 2008 Date for completion of third IEEE review 

*           August 1, 2008 Proposed feature freeze for the Assertions
integration committee 

*           August 7, 2008 Champions meeting to confirm final changes 

*           August 14, 2008 Teleconference 8am 

*           -------------- Feature freeze in the P1800 

*           September 11, 2008 Teleconference 8am 

*           -------------- Pre-ballot draft available (Draft 7) 

*           -------------- Submit draft for IEEE unpaid ballot review 

*           September 20, 2008 Remind entities to become members 

*           September 25, 2008 Two year anniversary for officer
elections 

*           October 11, 2008 IEEE unpaid review complete 

*           October 23, 2008 Last editing corrections filed in svdb 

*           October 23, 2008 Open the invitation to ballot 

*           October 30, 2008 Champions meeting 

*           November 13, 2008 P1800 approval due 

*           November 23, 2008 Close of the invitation to ballot 

*           November 30, 2008 Balance in the balloting group confirmed 

*           -------------- Ballot draft available 

*           -------------- Balloting begins 

*           December 30, 2008 Ballot closes 

*           January 15, 2009 Ballot responses available 

*           February 15, 2009 Committees respond to ballot responses 

*           February 22, 2009 Champions meeting 

*           March 1, 2009 P1800 approval 

*           March 15, 2009 Recirculation draft (Was May 31 for
1800-2005) 

*           April 1, 2009 Recirculation results back 

*           June 15, 2009 Initiate press release to announce IEEE-SA
Approval 

*           August 15, 2009 Initiate press release to announce
Publication available

 

8          P1800 technical committees and Champions operational update

Committees' status: See Neil's presentation at
http://www.eda-stds.org/pub/sv-ieee1800/Meetings/2008/May/committees0501
08.pdf. 

 

There were 8 Mantis items resolved since the last meeting.  There was
one Mantis item, 1503, that was identified as needing attention.  The
status for the AC, the 2110 should have read no to allow concurrent
assertions in for loops.  The results of voting on the Mantis items can
be found at
http://www.eda-stds.org/pub/sv-ieee1800/Meetings/2008/May/mantis_1800_05
01.txt.  

 

Mr. Dovich was liaison for p1800 and the encryption group and a Mantis
item, 2360, was added and may need to go to the SV-BC for resolution.
P1800 should allow the SV-BC to work on this.  

 

A motion (Charles Dawson, Dennis Brophy) was made to allow the SV-BC to
work on Mantis 2360.  The motion was approved unanimously.  

 

On Mantis 2336, it should be listed as ready for P1800 approval.

 

The special committee (SV-SC) was approved and meetings are underway.
There is a face-to-face meeting schedule in the Bay Area.  Status for
the SV-SC is in Neil's presentation referenced above.

 

A motion (Neil Korpusik, Dennis Brophy) was made to approve Erik
Seligman as chair and Tom Thatcher as co-chair of the SV-SC.  The motion
was approved unanimously.  

 

The SV-BC status was presented.  They are seeking permission to address
2374.  

 

A motion (Neil Korpusik, Dennis Brophy) was made to approve the SV-BC to
work on this Mantis item.  The motion was approve unanimously.  

 

The SV-CC status was discussed.  There was no formal update supplied to
Neil.  Charles covered the status in the meeting.  All the SV-AC issues
were resolved by the deadline.  There has been no meeting since.  The
next meeting will be next Wednesday.  Mantis 2054 did pass, but it was
not without controversy.  The Champions did send one issue back to the
SV-CC.  All the outstanding issues will be addressed next Wednesday.  

 

For JEITA, John Shields owns the last item (Mantis 1835).  He is working
on it as it might get into the release.  The change for 1835 is a
straight-forward change.  

 

A motion (Dennis Brophy, Charles Dawson) was made to allow the SV-CC to
work on 1835.  The motion was approved unanimously.  

 

The SV-EC status was presented.  There was only one meeting held.  With
the SV-SC going to weekly meetings meant there was scheduling issues
with SV-EC meetings.  

 

The committees should start review of Draft 5 and not wait for feedback
from other committees.  

 

The SV-XC is inactive.

 

The Champions summary was presented.  Status on the approved (unanimous
and non-unanimous), returned, etc. was presented.

 

19 items were approved unanimously by the Champions committee.

 

A motion (Neil Korpusik, Dennis Brophy) was made to approve the first 19
Mantis items that were unanimously approved by the Champions.  The
motion approved unanimously.

 

Mantis 1698 from the SV-AC was discussed.  After approval of 1698, 2370
was opened to address the concern of clock inference.  

 

A motion (Neil Korpusik, Dennis Brophy) was made to approve Mantis 1698.
The motion approved unanimously.

 

Mantis 2251 from the SV-BC was discussed.  When the BC made the change
for this issue, it was soon understood it was a larger issue.  2239
addresses the larger issue.  Both issues should be addressed
concurrently by a dissenter Champion voter.  

 

A motion (Neil Korpusik, Shalom Bresticker) was made to approve 2251.
The motion approved unanimously.

 

Mantis 1932 from the SV-AC was discussed.  The original used the keyword
"next" and was proposed to be changes to "nexttime" to avoid conflict
with the use of next.  

 

A motion (Neil Korpusik, Mehdi Mohtashemi) was made to approve 1932.
The motion approved unanimously.

 

Mantis 1769 was discussed and it was noted it was contingently approved
by the Champions if the committee addressed their issues. 

 

A motion (Neil Korpusik, Mehdi Mohtashemi) was made to approve 1769.
The motion approved unanimously.

 

The status of the JEITA Mantis items was discussed and the status can be
found at
http://www.eda-stds.org/pub/sv-ieee1800/Meetings/2008/May/jeita_032708.t
xt.  

 

9          NEW BUSINESS

None.

 

10        Next meeting (announce date, time, and location, if known)

May 29, 2008   P1800 Meeting teleconference 8 a.m. PDT

June 26, 2008   P1800 Meeting teleconference 8 a.m. PDT

August 14, 2008   P1800 Meeting teleconference 8 a.m. PDT

September 11, 2008   P1800 Meeting teleconference 8 a.m. PDT

 

12        Adjournment 

A motion (Neil Korpusik) was made to adjourn the meeting.  Having come
to the end of the agenda with no other business, the meeting ended at
9:40 a.m. PDT

 

 

 


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