Hi, I would like clarification on this statement: "On 11/15 all committees must open active Mantis items that they are going to complete for this release. They may not work on any item not on in this list." Does this mean that after 11/15 the committees may work on any and all open Mantis items in their category, or does it mean that the committees must choose a subset of those Mantis items and they may work only on that subset after 11/15 ? Thanks, Shalom ________________________________ From: owner-ieee1800@server.eda.org [mailto:owner-ieee1800@server.eda.org] On Behalf Of Brophy, Dennis Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 12:42 AM To: IEEE P1800 Working Group Subject: [P1800] IEEE P1800 SystemVerilog Working Group 04-Octobert-2007 UNAPPROVED Meeting Minutes All, Please let me know if any changes are needed. Regards, Dennis ________________________________ IEEE P1800 SystemVerilog Working Group UNAPPROVED MINUTES 04 October 2007 8:00 a.m. - 10:00 p.m. PDT Teleconference 1 CALL TO ORDER - INTRODUCTIONS & AFFILIATIONS The meeting was called to order at 8:04 a.m. PDT. Member DRs/DRAs Present: Dennis Brophy (Mentor Graphics, DR) Swami Venkat (Synopsys, DR) Matt Maidment (Intel, DR) Charles Dawson (Cadence, DR) Neil Korpusik (Sun Microsystems, DR) Karen Pieper (Accellera, DR) Member DRAs Present: None Observers: Stu Sutherland (Sutherland HDL & Project Editor) John Havlicek (Freescale & Chair SV-AC) Alec Stanculecsu (Fintronic USA) Shalom Bresticker (Intel) 2 APPROVE AGENDA A motion (Dennis Brophy, Neil Korpusik) was made to approve the agenda. The motion passed unanimously. 3 CALL FOR PATENTS Chair Pieper provided the location for the IEEE patent slides. See: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Chair Pieper asked that all have heard, read and understood the policy. All have read and understand the slides. 6 Editing update Numerous editorial and technical changes were made for draft 4. Many of the updates come from 20 corrections that JEITA reported need to be made. Changes in the draft are denoted with change bars and alert the read if they came from Mantis items or from editorial review. Stu needs updates to any draft schedule changes to accommodate his schedule. Stu is also working on the Verilog AMS draft and needs to coordinate with that group. Now that we have D4, there are many Mantis items that have approval by the committees. Do these need to be against D4 or can they be against D3 was a question from Stu. They may be against D3 for most cases. It is noted that Mantis 1674 is in, but if Mantis 1648 does not get approved, the LRM will need modification. John says 1648 (disable iff) was approved but rejected by champions. The champions are waiting for feedback from other committees on 1648. Stu's concern is that lack of 1648 approval will require some editing for D5. This is the only item that has this issue at this time. The IEEE should be contracting Stu to ensure there is a contract transfer. There appears to be no issue with this at the moment. Stu plans to create a clean version of D4 with all the deletions removed and many of the margin notes deleted. This will be posted to the download sites when available. 4 APPROVAL OF 30 AUGUST 2007 MEETING MINUTES Approval of the minutes is deferred to the next meeting. 5 FUNDING, BUDGETING AND FINANCIAL UPDATE The current outstanding invoices are for editing. This will be paid by Accellera with the balance given to the IEEE. The fees collected and transferred to the IEEE can be used to pay any January or March invoices for editing. October 1, 2007 Intermediate draft Proposed IEEE submission for second paid review October 4, 2007 Teleconference 8am November 1, 2007 Date for completion of IEEE review November 8, 2007 Teleconference 8am November 15, 2007 Feature freeze in the SV* committees November 30, 2007 Champions meeting to approve final features December 13, 2007 Teleconference 8am December 15, 2007 Feature freeze in the P1800 January 15, 2008 Pre-ballot draft available Proposed IEEE submission for third paid review January 20, 2008 Remind entities to become members February 7, 2008 Date for completion of IEEE review February 15, 2008 Last editing corrections filed in svdb February 21, 2008 Open the invitation to ballot February 22, 2008 Submit draft for IEEE unpaid ballot review February 30, 2008 Champions meeting March 15, 2008 P1800 approval due March 22, 2008 IEEE unpaid review complete March 23, 2008 Close of the invitation to ballot March 30, 2008 Balance in the balloting group confirmed Ballot draft available Balloting begins April 30, 2008 Ballot closes May 15, 2008 Ballot responses available June 15, 2008 Committees respond to ballot responses June 30,2008 Champions meeting July 15, 2008 P1800 approval July 30, 2008 Recirculation draft (Was May 31 for 1800-2005) August 15,2008 Recirculation results back September 25, 2008 Two year anniversary for officer elections September 30, 2008 Initiate press release to announce IEEE-SA Approval November 30, 2008 Initiate press release to announce Publication available 8 P1800 technical committees and Champions operational update a. Technical committee Update Committee reports can be found at: http://www.eda-stds.org/sv-ieee1800/Meetings/2007/October/committees1004 07.pdf http://www.eda-stds.org/sv-ieee1800/Meetings/2007/October/email_vote_res ults.txt http://www.eda-stds.org/sv-ieee1800/Meetings/2007/October/jeita.txt http://www.eda-stds.org/sv-ieee1800/Meetings/2007/October/mantis_1800_09 05.txt http://www.eda-stds.org/sv-ieee1800/Meetings/2007/October/schedule_10040 7.txt The AC wants to extend the feature freeze date to the end of February. And the BC wants development time extended to 12/15. Charles says the CC needs one month beyond the BC, which means a cutoff of 1/15. John Havlicek updated us on near-term issues that are under consideration in the AC. Plus he updated on some of the more complex issues that are important to the AC. It is recognized the issues are not easy to solve, but are important to be solved. Convincing arguments are being made to address the issues. Details on the issues are in the reports above. In summary, more time is needed. The SV WG discussed how to give more time and concluded with the following two motions. A motion was made (Dennis Brophy, Charles Dawson) to change the schedule to: On 11/15 all committees must open active Mantis items that they are going to complete for this release. They may not work on any item not on in this list. On 12/15, SV-BC and SV-EC must complete all items from their Mantis list. Past this date they are only authorized to work on merge, editing and champions issues. On 2/15 the SV-CC must complete all items from its Mantis list. Past this date they are only authorized to work on merge, editing and champions issues. On 2/28 the SV-AC freezes. It does not get leeway for merge, editing and champions issues. The motion passed unanimously. Action Request [Karen Pieper]: Update Schedule and broadcast to teams. A motion was made (Matt Maidment, Dennis Brophy) to move the freeze date from 11/15 to 11/12 to accommodate the next SV WG meeting. The motion passed unanimously. A motion was made (Neil Korpusik, Dennis Brophy) to pass the 21 Mantis items passed unanimously by the champions in their email ballot. The motion passed unanimously. b. JEITA issues update & 2005 ballot issues updates The SV-BC has them on their list to be dealt with. The BC has one to close. That leaves 3 in the AC and 2 in the CC. From the AC, one of the items (Mantis 1833) is related to the glitch item (Mantis 2005). The solution to Mantis 2005 will most likely address Mantis 1833. From SV-CC, 1834 is closed and 1855 is open. They are being tracked by the committee. Neil provided an overall status report for all technical committees and the report has been included by reference into the minutes of the meeting above. 9 NEW BUSINESS None. 11 NEXT MEETING (ANNOUNCE DATE, TIME, AND LOCATION, IF KNOWN) 11/15 Teleconference 8 a.m. - 10 a.m. PDT 12/20 Teleconference 8 a.m. - 10 a.m. PDT 2/14 Teleconference 8 a.m. - 10 a.m. PDT 11 ADJOURNMENT A motion (Neil Korpusik, Charles Dawson) was made to adjourn the meeting. The chair called the meeting closed at 10:01 a.m. PDT. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner <http://www.mailscanner.info/> , and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel Israel (74) Limited This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. 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