[P1800] 5/9 Meeting Minutes and 5/22 Continuation Meeting Minutes

From: Brophy, Dennis <dennisb_at_.....>
Date: Tue May 23 2006 - 08:45:59 PDT
Please let me know of any corrections to the minutes. -Dennis 
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Members Present: 

Dennis  Brophy (Mentor DR) 

Karen Pieper (Accellera DR) 

Steve Smith (Synopsys DR) 

Yossi Levi (Intel DR) 

Stu Sutherland (Sutherland HDL DR) 

Neil Korpusik (Sun Microsystems DR) 

Cliff Cummings (Sunburst DR) 

Charles Dawson (Cadence DR) 

 

1. Call to order:  8:13am February 9, 2006 

 

2.  Approving the agenda: 

        1.  Call to order 

        2.  Approval of the agenda 

        3.  Call for Patents 

        4.  Approval of minutes 

        5.  Review and Approval of PAR 

        6.  New Business 

                Funding of merged document 

        7.  Next Meeting 

        8.  Adjourn 

 

Karen moves to approve the agenda.  Stu seconds.  Approved unanimously. 

 

3.  Call for Patents. 

        Dennis read the IEEE patent slides. 

 

4.  Approval of the April 3, 2006 telecom meeting minutes. 

        Stu moves to approve the minutes of the April 3, 2006 Telecom
meeting.  Yossi seconds.  Approved unanimously. 

 

5.  Review and Approval of PAR 

        Yossi moves to approve the PAR.  Steve seconds.  

        Dennis noticed that item 10, the Sponsoring Society and
Committee, is currently set as AES.  Dennis believes it should be the
CAG.

 

        Stu noticed in item 15, yes is checked for copyrights and
trademarks.  There is no text written to support the yes, and we are not
aware of any copyrights or trademarks coming, so we think it may need to
be marked "no".

 

        Karen proposes a friendly amendment to Yossi's motion asking
Johny to check and correct the Sponsoring Society and Committee
appropriately in item 10, and to update item 15 as necessary, including
the notation of the Verilog trademark.

 

        Yossi withdraws his motion to give Johny an opportunity to
address these issues. 

 

        

[AI - Johny] Johny to update item 10 to reflect the CAG as the
Sponsoring Society and Committee 

[AI - Johny] Johny to update item 15 to address the copyright and
trademark issues in the application 

 

[AI - Dennis] Increase the WG email outgoing size so that the PAR can be
mailed to the WG. 

 

        Dennis read the text box in item 16. 

 

[AI- Johny] Johny to modify 16 to include IEEE 1666 SystemC Standard. 

 

[AI- Johny] Johny to verify and update the contact person for IEC TC93
WG2 

 

        We discussed the text in item 14, and no objections were raised.


 

6.  New Business:  Funding of the merged document 

        

        Yossi raised the issue that we are losing time because we are
not beginning to work on the merge of the documents.

 

[AI- Victor and Dennis] Report back to the group when this meeting
resumes with a status on the funding for the merged document

 

7.  Next Meetings 

        Resumption of the current meeting to follow up on action items:
Tuesday May 23, 2006 from 8am to 9am PDT. 

        

        June 12, 2006 Monday 9am- 11am PDT  Telecall 

 

        July 24, 2006 Monday  3pm-6pm PDT At DAC 

 

8.  Adjourn 

 

        Stu moves that we suspend the meeting until May 23, 2006 at 8am.
Charles seconds.  Unanimous. 

 

The meeting resumed at 8:05 am PDT.

 

Members Present

Johny Srouji (IBM DR)

Dennis  Brophy (Mentor DR) 

Karen Pieper (Accellera DR) 

Steve Smith (Synopsys DR) 

Stu Sutherland (Sutherland HDL DR) 

Cliff Cummings (Sunburst DR) 

Victor Berman (Cadence DR)

 

1.	Call to order
	
	
2.	Action Item Review

	a.	IEEE Staff to update the PAR 
	b.	[AI - Johny] Johny to update item 10 to reflect the CAG
as the Sponsoring Society and Committee 
		
		Johny took a new action to contact Mary Lynne Nielsen at
the IEEE to update the pull down item to include a CAG/DASC joint
sponsorship entry.
		
		[AI - Johny] Contact Mary Lynne Nielsen at IEEE to work
on recording the sponsor information correctly in the PAR.
		
		
	c.	[AI - Johny] Johny to update item 15 to address the
copyright and trademark issues in the application 
		
		Done.
		
		
	d.	[AI - Dennis] Increase the WG email outgoing size so
that the PAR can be mailed to the WG. 
		
		Done.
		
		
	e.	[AI- Johny] Johny to modify 16 to include IEEE 1666
SystemC Standard.
		
		Done.

 

	f.	[AI- Johny] Johny to verify and update the contact
person for IEC TC93 WG2 
		
		Done.
		
		A motion was made (Dennis Brophy, Victor Berman) to
approve the PAR as presented to the group and to work with Mary Lynne
Nielsen at the IEEE to list the contact information for sponsoring
society or standards coordinating committees correctly.  The motion
passed unanimously.

 

	g.	[AI- Victor and Dennis] Report back to the group when
this meeting resumes with a status on the funding for the merged
document
		
		Victor presented the budget that he and Dennis
discussed.  From discussions with Stu, and confirmed in this meeting,
the cost to merge 1364 and 1800 documents would be $30K.  Additional
editing would be needed for changes we make to the standard.  And with
the ballot, there would also be changes.  The estimate is the cost would
be $50K - $60K.  A baseline contract with the IEEE would be about $45K
for project management fees.  Overall, the estimate is about $100K over
two years of the project.  If 7 companies participating at $7K/year, we
would be near the $100K projected cost.  It is suggested that the
following fee structure be assessed:

 

                                                               i.
Companies with revenue greater than $100M pay $7K.

                                                             ii.
Accellera pays $7K.

                                                            iii.
Companies with revenue greater than $10M but less than $100M pay $5K.

                                                           iv.
Companies with revenue less than $10M pay zero.


A motion was made (Dennis Brophy, Victor Berman) to approve the budget
has outlined here and to contact Lynn Horobin to invoice these fees for
payment to the IEEE.  The motion passed unanimously.

 

3.	There being no other business before the committee, the meeting
adjourned at 9:25 am PDT.

 
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