[P1800] RE: [sv-bc] IEEE Std. 1800-2005 Available for Purchase

Cliff,

  Unfortunately, the organization is not structured to consider this
proposal.  Backend recovery of front-end costs is something they are
moving slowly away from.  If this keeps on its natural path, standards
could become free.  (Some already are, like the 802 standards.)  I see
that a more likely outcome in the years ahead versus using backend fees
to pay for future work.  

  But, I still think your point is well taken!

-Dennis 

-----Original Message-----
From: Clifford E. Cummings [mailto:cliffc@sunburst-design.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 10:03 AM
To: Brophy, Dennis
Cc: ieee1800@eda.org
Subject: Re: [sv-bc] IEEE Std. 1800-2005 Available for Purchase

Hi, Dennis -

Looking at the disparity in pricing, I would make the argument that the
1800-2005 Standard should also cost $110 where the extra $65 per copy be
placed into an IEEE P1800 escrow account for use to help pay for future
versions of the 1800 standard.

Thoughts?

Regards - Cliff

At 06:38 AM 12/2/2005, Brophy, Dennis wrote:
>Dear SystemVerilog WG and Observers,
>
>   I have had several questions for observers how and where they can 
> purchase the 1800-2005 and the 1364-2005 specifications following the 
> announcement yesterday that the final version of 1800-2005 was 
> available for download to working group members.  I also had a couple 
> of emails alerting me to the fact that 1800-2005 is not available at 
> the IEEE Xplore website that many companies subscribe to that allow 
> access to completed IEEE standards.
>
>   The 1800-2005 standard is available and the last draft of 1364-2005 
> is available for purchase as well.  The IEEE is still doing the final 
> edits for publication of 1364-2005.  As such, only the last draft is 
> available for sale at this time.  Because much of the upfront costs to

> produce the
> 1800-2005 standard were covered by the Entity participants, you will 
> find the cost to purchase is lower than one might normally see for an 
> IEEE standard.  The following links will take you to the "Shop IEEE" 
> website to purchase the standards online.
>
>   IEEE Std. 
> 1800-2005: 
>
<http://shop.ieee.org/ieeestore/Product.aspx?product_no=SS95376>http://s
hop.ieee.org/ieeestore/Product.aspx?product_no=SS95376
>     List Price: $55.00
>     IEEE Member Price: $45.00
>
>   IEEE P1364-2005: 
>
<http://shop.ieee.org/ieeestore/Product.aspx?product_no=UE5945>http://sh
op.ieee.org/ieeestore/Product.aspx?product_no=UE5945
>     List Price: $110.00
>     IEEE Member Price: $110.00
>
>   For  those who work at companies that have purchased licenses to 
> IEEE Xplore 
> (<http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/>http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/), you know 
> that within your company you have unlimited access to all IEEE 
> standards and can download them for free.  The IEEE Xplore website is 
> separate from Shop IEEE and it will take between 2 to 4 weeks for the
> 1800-2005 specification to be published and made available at IEEE 
> Xplore.  Once it is at the IEEE Xplore website, I will send another 
> message for those who wish to download from this site.
>
>Regards,
>
>Dennis
>

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