[sv-dc] RE: Revised proposal for 3398 and response to Shalom's comments

Since nets with user-defined nettypes can be ports, please see whether any changes are needed in the BNF for ANSI or non-ANSI port declarations and/or in the rules in 23.2.2.3.

Thanks,
Shalom

From: owner-sv-dc@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-dc@eda.org] On Behalf Of Bresticker, Shalom
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:33 AM
To: Francoise Martinolle; sv-dc@eda.org
Subject: [sv-dc] RE: Revised proposal for 3398 and response to Shalom's comments

Hi,

I still have a problem with the sentence in 6.7, "The default initialization value for a net shall be the value z."
Maybe you should add a qualifier to that sentence, like the proposal does in 7.2.2.

What happens if a net with a user-defined nettype has no resolution function?
What is its initial value?
Say, for example, that the nettype is simple logic.
The difference is between Z, like a regular net, and X, as specified in Table 6-7.
If it is X, then what happens when the driver is not driving?
Is the resulting value Z or X?

What happens if a resolution function does not assign a value to the function in some case?
Does it return the default initial value for a variable of the function data type?

Regards,
Shalom

From: owner-sv-dc@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-dc@eda.org] On Behalf Of Bresticker, Shalom
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:48 PM
To: Francoise Martinolle; sv-dc@eda.org
Subject: [sv-dc] RE: Revised proposal for 3398 and response to Shalom's comments

Hi, so far I think the new version is much tighter than the original.

However, I still have a problem with the following issue.

The text in 6.7 starting, "Certain restrictions apply to the data type of a net. A valid data type for a net shall be one of the following," does not say that it only applies to nets of non user-defined data types.

Regards,
Shalom

From: Francoise Martinolle [mailto:fm@cadence.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:53 PM
To: sv-dc@eda.org
Cc: Bresticker, Shalom
Subject: Revised proposal for 3398 and response to Shalom's comments

The following text in 6.7 needs to change:
"A valid data type for a net shall be one of the following:
a) A 4-state integral type, including a packed array or packed structure.
b) A fixed-size unpacked array or unpacked structure, where each element has a valid data type for a net.
The effect of this recursive definition is that a net is composed entirely of 4-state bits and is treated accordingly. In addition to a signal value, each bit of a net shall have additional strength information.
...
The default initialization value for a net shall be the value z."
.
This only applies to nets of non user-defined nettypes. Next sections 6.7.1 and 6.7.2 will define the legal datatypes for nets of user defined nettype
and their default initialization value. I added text at the end of section 6.7.2 to describe the legal data types for a net with a user-defined nettype.
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