Minutes of IEEE P1800 SV-AC meeting #2006-7: 04/11/2006 Written by: Ed Cerny Code for the conference call: Domestic: 888-635-9997 International: 763-315-6815 Participant code: 2638198 Attendance Record Legend: x = attended - = missed r = represented . = not yet a member v = valid voter (3 out of last 4 or 75% overall) n = not valid voter n[xxx-x-x] Faisal Haque (Cisco, Chairman) v[xxx-xxx] Eduard Cerny (Synopsys - Co-chair) v[xxxxxxx] John Havlicek (Freescale) v[xxxxxxx] Doron Bustan (Freescale) v[xxxxxxx] Manisha Kulshrestha (Mentor Graphics) v[xxx---x] Volkan Esen (Infineon) v[-xxx-xx] Bassam Tabbara (Synopsys) v[-xxxx-x] Hillel Miller (Freescale) v[-x--xxx] Surrendra Dudani (Synopsys) v[-xxxx-x] Joseph Lu (Altera) [.x-x---] Yaniv Fais (Freescale) v[..xxxxx] Dmitry Korchemny (Intel) [....xxx] Lisa Piper (Cadence) ========|---------------------------- 04/11/2006 Agenda: ------- - Review IEEE working group rules - Review errata reported in Mantis Minutes: -------- 1) Ed sent out a list of discussion points / questions asking people to reply with their thoughts. Ed collated the received responses and distributed to all. 2) Discussion revolved around the definition of vacuity (one of the points on the list in (1)). Doron and John deposited to Mantis (item #1381) a text outlining a possible definition. Dmitry expressed the need for a more detailed and varied definition of vacuity that would be suitable for formal tools where per-attempt vacuity definition may not be practical and sufficient. On the other hand, a simpler definition on a per-attempt basis is needed to define the conditions under which action blocks on assert and cover property statements should execute. The dilemma was resolved by: - Deciding that the D&J definition would be cast as "per-attempt vacuity" primarily for use in simulation and for defining the conditions under which the execution of action blocks should take place. - Later a more detailed definition of vacuity destined for formal tools will be developed. Action items before the next meeting: ------------------------------------ 1) Doron and John will draft a proposal on per-attempt vacuity to resolve #1381. 2) Following Ed's email mentioned in (1), all should continue adding thoughts on the items there (or other items!) so that we may arrive at an agreement on some of the points before the next meeting. Next meeting: 04/25/2006 at 9 am PT (12 pm ET, 6 pm Europe). (NOTE: Ed will not be able to attend, Bassam will take the minutes.) ====