RE: [sv-ac] RE: Mantis items 2551 and 2552

From: Dana Fisman <Dana.Fisman@synopsys.com>
Date: Sun Jul 04 2010 - 00:04:46 PDT

I opened new mantis items for the below:

3134: sequence and property range parameters are erroneously defined
http://www.eda-twiki.org/mantis/view.php?id=3134

3135: Verbal explanation of nexttime and always is misleading for multiple clocks.
http://www.eda-twiki.org/mantis/view.php?id=3135

Dana

From: Havlicek John-R8AAAU [mailto:r8aaau@freescale.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:26 PM
To: Dana Fisman; Korchemny, Dmitry
Cc: sv-ac@eda.org
Subject: RE: [sv-ac] RE: Mantis items 2551 and 2552

I agree with Dana's points. These restrictions should be in Clause 16. I also agree that this can be done as a separate mantis.

J.H.

From: owner-sv-ac@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ac@eda.org] On Behalf Of Dana Fisman
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:57 PM
To: Korchemny, Dmitry
Cc: sv-ac@eda.org
Subject: [sv-ac] RE: Mantis items 2551 and 2552

Hi Dmitry,

The changes themselves look fine to me.
I have two concerns about the nexttime etc. operators (2552), though.

The parameter in brackets is designated as constant_expression. Tracking it on Annex A (via constant_expression, constant_primary, primary_literal, number) I can see it can in particular be a negative number or a real number. These do not make sense. The parameter should be a non-negative integer (or an expression evaluated as such).

The same comment goes to cycle_delay_const_range_expression used in always which is defined using constant_expression.

Another comment is about the verbal explanations of the operators. They are correct when there is a single clock, but incorrect in the presence of multiple clocks. In the presence of multiple clocks, a formula can be evaluated at a cycle which is not a tick of the clock of the nexttime operator. In such a case, the semantics dictates, that nexttime will take you to the second tick of the clock of the nexttime operator. (It is nexttime[0] that will take you to the first tick).

Regards,
Dana

From: owner-sv-ac@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ac@eda.org] On Behalf Of Korchemny, Dmitry
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:47 PM
To: sv-ac@eda.org
Subject: [sv-ac] Mantis items 2551 and 2552

Hi all,

I uploaded proposals for the following Mantis items
2551: trivial example error
http://www.eda-stds.org/mantis/file_download.php?file_id=4338&type=bug

2552: Confusing comments regarding nexttime operator
http://www.eda-stds.org/mantis/file_download.php?file_id=4345&type=bug

Please, review.

Thanks,
Dmitry

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