Hi,
Please see my comments:
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From: owner-sv-ac@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ac@eda.org] On Behalf Of ben cohen
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:41 AM
To: Kulshrestha, Manisha
Cc: Eduard Cerny; sv-ac@eda.org; Korchemny, Dmitry
Subject: [POSSIBLE VIRUS:###] Re: [sv-ac] Fwd: sv-ac: virtual interface application example
Manisha,
Thanks for your detailed explanations. Please bear with me on some comments, see below:
1. The virtual interface is attached to an instance of a class (or class object). So, different class objects (of the same class) can have different interface objects attached to them. Even same class object can refer to different virtual interfaces at different times. It is possible that in the middle of execution of expect (while it is waiting), the virtual interface object changes.
Here is some text from LRM:
Virtual interface variables may be passed as arguments to tasks, functions, or methods. A single virtual interface variable can thus represent different interface instances at different times throughout the simulation. A virtual interface shall be initialized before referencing a component of the virtual interface; it has the value null before it is initialized. Attempting to use a null virtual interface shall result in a fatal run-time error.
Consider this example: (complete VMM model is attached, but without the expect. In previous email (further down in this email is a snippet with the expect). In the environment (the Fifo_env class), I can see the possibility of assigning to null the object where the expect were to be used in a class, and the expect was in the wait state. Specifically, one can do after a certain run time the following:
this.fifo_cmd_xactor_0 = null;
... some time later
this.fifo_cmd_xactor_0 = new("cmd_xactor",
0,
`TOP.f_if, // Same or different interface <----- actual interface passed
fifo_channel_0,
fifo_response_chan0
);
`define TOP fifo_tb
class Fifo_env extends vmm_env; // ENVIRONMENT
....
Fifo_cmd_xactor fifo_cmd_xactor_0; // command-layer declaration
...
endclass : Fifo_env
function void Fifo_env::build();
...
this.fifo_cmd_xactor_0 = new("cmd_xactor",
0,
`TOP.f_if, // <----- actual interface passed
fifo_channel_0,
fifo_response_chan0
);
...
endfunction : build
So far, so good! But what are the complications of doing such a thing? If the class instance is nulled in the middle of an expect, then everything in that class goes away. I don't understand the implications here.
MK: What I wanted to say was that we need to define what happens in such cases. If interface object changes or becomes null (not the class object), how does expect behave. Is it allowed or tools gives error in this case ?
2. Using class variables in clock expression. Currently usage of class variables in clock expressions is not well defined. In your example, the expect needs to be explicitly clocked (it does not infer clock). We have seen usage of class variables in clock expressions earlier and I filed a mantis item (001513: LRM does not clarify if class variables can be used in clock expressions under SV-EC). Here is something from LRM which prohibits use of virtual interface in sensitivity lists. If we use virtual interface in the clock expression for expect, we are effectively using it in sensitivity list:
Once a virtual interface has been initialized, all the components of the underlying interface instance are
directly available to the virtual interface via the dot notation. These components can only be used in
procedural statements; they cannot be used in continuous assignments or sensitivity lists.
That kills the application of something like:
task driver(pkt_c in_pkt);
// code..
vif.abort <= 1'b1;
expect ( @(posedge vif.clk) vif.mst_abort ##[5:8] vif.slv_resp == ABORTED)
continue2(); // pass action block
else abort_error() ); // fail action block
endtask : driver
Is there a way to fix this? Do we want that? If one vendor implemented such application, what assumptions did he do?
MK: I do not know what assumptions any specific vendor made. What I am saying is that this restriction in the virtual interfaces has to go away and the behaviour needs to be defined if we want to support virtual interfaces in the clock expression.
2. Usage of automatic variables in expect. Although LRM currently allows usage of automatic variables in expect, the assumption is that the automatic variable will not change in the middle of execution of expect. Even procedural concurrent assertions are allowed to use automatic variables but they are considered constants. The value of these variables is captured at the time of attempt and the same value is used through out the evaluation of that attempt. Is that how you see the usage of automatic signals in your example, or you would like the expect to use the latest values.
Can you sho an example of the expect with automatic variables?
MK: There is an example in the LRM in expect section. Here value is an automatic variable.
integer data;
...
task automatic wait_for( integer value, output bit success );
expect( @(posedge clk) ##[1:10] data == value ) success = 1;
else success = 0;
endtask
initial begin
bit ok;
wait_for( 23, ok ); // wait for the value 23
...
end
Ben
Thanks.
Manisha
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From: owner-sv-ac@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ac@eda.org] On Behalf Of ben cohen
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:29 AM
To: Eduard Cerny; sv-ac@eda.org; Korchemny, Dmitry
Subject: Re: [sv-ac] Fwd: sv-ac: virtual interface application example
Ed,
That particular example is from my VMM book, and does not use the expect. Here are 2 examples; One with a modification that could use the expect, and another example.
class Fifo_cmd_xactor extends vmm_xactor;
virtual fifo_if.fdrvr_if_mp f_if;
virtual fifo_if.fslave_if_mp s_if;
...
function new(...
virtual fifo_if.fdrvr_if_mp new_vir_if,
virtual fifo_if.fslave_if_mp new_svir_if;
... );
this.f_if = new_vir_if;
this.s_if = new_svir_if;
...
endfunction : new
endclass: Fifo_cmd_xactor
task Fifo_cmd_xactor::push_task (word_t data);
@ ( f_if.driver_cb);
expect (s_if.xxx ##[1:5} s_if.yyy); // <----
f_if.driver_cb.data_in <= data;
f_if.driver_cb.push <= 1'b1;
f_if.driver_cb.pop <= 1'b0;
@ ( f_if.driver_cb);
f_if.driver_cb.push <= 1'b0;
endtask : push_task
// NEW EXAMPLE with Action Blocks
However, here is another example
class mst_bfm; // driver class
virtual master_if.fdrvr_if_mp v_if;
function new( …
virtual master_if.fdrvr_if_mp new_vir_if, ..);
this.v_if = new_vir_if;
..
endfunction : new
…
task continue2() .. endtask : continue2 // What to do if response to abort is the ABORTED
task abort_error(); … endtask : abort_error // What to do if response to abort is not ABORTED
task driver(pkt_c in_pkt);
// code..
vif.abort <= 1'b1;
expect ( @(posedge vif.clk) vif.mst_abort ##[5:8] vif.slv_resp == ABORTED)
continue2(); // pass action block
else abort_error() ); // fail action block
endtask : driver
endclass : mst_bfm
In fact, this is how envisioned the application of the "expect" in a class.
Ben
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Eduard Cerny <Eduard.Cerny@synopsys.com> wrote:
Hi Ben,
did you say that the example uses an expect? I do not see one.
Thanks,
ed
From: owner-sv-ac@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ac@eda.org] On Behalf Of ben cohen
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:30 PM
To: Korchemny, Dmitry; sv-ac@eda.org
Subject: [sv-ac] Fwd: sv-ac: virtual interface application example
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From: ben cohen <hdlcohen@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:58 AM
Subject: sv-ac: virtual interface application example
To: sv-ac@eda.org
`define TOP fifo_tb
module fifo_tb;
...
fifo_if f_if(.*); // instantiation of fifo interface
endmodule : fifo_tb
class Fifo_env extends vmm_env; // ENVIRONMENT
....
Fifo_cmd_xactor fifo_cmd_xactor_0; // command-layer declaration
...
endclass : Fifo_env
function void Fifo_env::build();
...
this.fifo_cmd_xactor_0 = new("cmd_xactor",
0,
`TOP.f_if, // <----- actual interface passed
fifo_channel_0,
fifo_response_chan0
);
...
endfunction : build
class Fifo_cmd_xactor extends vmm_xactor;
virtual fifo_if.fdrvr_if_mp f_if;
...
function new(...
virtual fifo_if.fdrvr_if_mp new_vir_if,
... );
this.f_if = new_vir_if;
...
endfunction : new
endclass: Fifo_cmd_xactor
task Fifo_cmd_xactor::push_task (word_t data);
f_if.driver_cb.data_in <= data;
f_if.driver_cb.push <= 1'b1;
f_if.driver_cb.pop <= 1'b0;
@ ( f_if.driver_cb);
f_if.driver_cb.push <= 1'b0;
endtask : push_task
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