Hi John, I think I like your definitions. They are not that intuitive but they will not produce false negatives (as far as I can see) and if a property never pass non-vacuously, that probably because of a problem. Doron >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-sv-ac@server.eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ac@server.eda.org] On >>Behalf Of John Havlicek >>Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 8:18 PM >>To: Bustan, Doron >>Cc: john.havlicek@freescale.com; sv-ac@server.eda.org >>Subject: Re: [sv-ac] some thoughts on non-vacuity >> >>Hi Doron: >> >>You are right, I put them backwards! I should have put >> >> vacuous_true = 0 |-> 0 >> vacuous_false = not(vacuous_true) >> >>It's not so important exactly how these are defined as long as >>you the following holds: >> >> For w a non-empty natural word (i.e., no letter of w is \top or \bot), >> >> w |/= vacuous_false and w |/=^{non} vacuous_false >> w |= vacuous_true and w |/=^{non} vacuous_true >> >>J.H. >> >>> X-ExtLoop1: 1 >>> X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.24,282,1196668800"; >>> d="scan'208";a="366688247" >>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 >>> Content-class: urn:content-classes:message >>> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:10:40 +0200 >>> X-MS-Has-Attach: >>> X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: >>> Thread-Topic: [sv-ac] some thoughts on non-vacuity >>> thread-index: AchWt3onFqvX8IhASJS/fxfqXlHxTAAB+uLQ >>> From: "Bustan, Doron" <doron.bustan@intel.com> >>> Cc: <sv-ac@eda.org> >>> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2008 15:10:45.0900 (UTC) >>FILETIME=[A3541CC0:01C856BF] >>> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> I don't understand why >>> >>> >> >>> >> vacuous_false =3D 0 |-> 0. >>> >> vacuous_true =3D not(vacuous_false) >>> >> >>> >>Assume that w is a non-empty natural word (i.e., no letter of w is >>> \top or >>> >>\bot). >>> >>Then >>> >> >>> >> w |/=3D vacuous_false and w |/=3D^{non} vacuous_false >>> >> w |=3D vacuous_true and w |/=3D^{non} vacuous_true >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> Isn't 0 |-> 0 a tautology?=20 >>> >>> Doron >> >>-- >>This message has been scanned for viruses and >>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel Israel (74) Limited This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.Received on Mon Jan 14 11:10:25 2008
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