RE: [sv-ac] SV-AC plans for the extension

From: Korchemny, Dmitry <dmitry.korchemny_at_.....>
Date: Tue Nov 20 2007 - 04:29:39 PST
Hi John,

If you think so we can remove the dependency on checkers.

Regards,
Dmitry

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From: John Havlicek [mailto:john.havlicek@freescale.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 7:44 PM
To: Korchemny, Dmitry
Cc: Bresticker, Shalom; john.havlicek@freescale.com; sv-ac@eda.org
Subject: Re: [sv-ac] SV-AC plans for the extension

Hi Dmitry:

One reason this may have been put in SV-AC is that the 
feature that is envisioned is itself an assertion.

I still don't see why this has especially to do with
checkers.  A basic usage is to write assertions on 
parameters as module level items.  I guess that this 
could be done with "assert" syntax.

J.H.

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> I suggest we start with checkers and BC reviews it. If time allows we
> will expand it to other cases.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dmitry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bresticker, Shalom=20
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 7:03 PM
> To: Korchemny, Dmitry; 'john.havlicek@freescale.com'
> Cc: 'sv-ac@server.eda.org'
> Subject: RE: [sv-ac] SV-AC plans for the extension
> 
> BC won't have time. But AC can do it and have BC review it. Isn't that
> what AC has done with the severity tasks?
> 
> Shalom=20
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Korchemny, Dmitry=20
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 6:59 PM
> > To: Bresticker, Shalom; 'john.havlicek@freescale.com'
> > Cc: 'sv-ac@server.eda.org'
> > Subject: RE: [sv-ac] SV-AC plans for the extension
> >=20
> > In this case it should belong to SV-BC. But it also makes=20
> > sense to elaborate it in SV-AC, and then to generalize in SV-BC.
> >=20
> > Dmitry
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bresticker, Shalom
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 6:30 PM
> > To: Korchemny, Dmitry; 'john.havlicek@freescale.com'
> > Cc: 'sv-ac@server.eda.org'
> > Subject: RE: [sv-ac] SV-AC plans for the extension
> >=20
> > I see. But it would be of general interest, and it is a sort=20
> > of compile-time assertion. We should still try to do it. I=20
> > estimate that it would be one of the smaller efforts.
> >=20
> > Shalom=20
> >=20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Korchemny, Dmitry
> > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 6:28 PM
> > > To: john.havlicek@freescale.com; Bresticker, Shalom
> > > Cc: sv-ac@server.eda.org
> > > Subject: RE: [sv-ac] SV-AC plans for the extension
> > >=20
> > > Hi Shalom,
> > >=20
> > > If we consider this problem (1769, Elaboration time user=20
> > assertion and=20
> > > error reporting tasks) in the context of SV-AC, then it
apparently=20
> > > relates to checkers. We could also add this feature to=20
> > sequences and=20
> > > properties as well, but it would require introducing generate=20
> > > statements inside sequences and properties (see mantis=20
> > 1646), and it=20
> > > is not realistic to address before 2008 release.
> > >=20
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dmitry
> > >=20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-sv-ac@server.eda.org
> > > [mailto:owner-sv-ac@server.eda.org] On Behalf Of John Havlicek
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:39 AM
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> > > Cc: john.havlicek@freescale.com; sv-ac@server.eda.org
> > > Subject: Re: [sv-ac] SV-AC plans for the extension
> > >=20
> > > Hi Shalom:
> > >=20
> > > I don't think there is an intrinsic dependency, but Dmitry
thought=20
> > > that the use of such elaboration time assertions in=20
> > checkers would be=20
> > > important.
> > >=20
> > > I have asked Dmitry to explain further.
> > >=20
> > > J.H.
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> > > > From: "Bresticker, Shalom" <shalom.bresticker@intel.com>
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> > > > John,
> > > >=20
> > > > In the xls, 1769 is marked as related to 1900.
> > > >=20
> > > > What is the connection?
> > > >=20
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Shalom=3D20
> > > >=20
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-sv-ac@server.eda.org=3D20=20
> > > > > [mailto:owner-sv-ac@server.eda.org] On Behalf Of John Havlicek
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:49 AM
> > > > > To: neil.korpusik@sun.com; karen.pieper@synopsys.com
> > > > > Cc: sv-ac@server.eda.org
> > > > > Subject: [sv-ac] SV-AC plans for the extension =3D20  Hi
> > > Neil, Karen:
> > > > >=3D20
> > > > > Attached is a .xls with our list of items for the extension.
> > > > >=3D20
> > > > > Below is a rough schedule for the work based on the
> > > effort estimates.
> > > > >=3D20
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >=3D20
> > > > > John H.
> > > > >=3D20
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> > > > > 2007-11-11
> > > > >=3D20
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> > > > > v:  very minor item slot (no limit)
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> > > > > 2007-11-13
> > > > >   M: 1932 ballot & revision
> > > > >   M: 1900 review
> > > > >   m: 1757 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1898 review
> > > > >   m: 1756 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1682 ballot & revision
> > > > > 2007-11-20
> > > > >   M: 1932 ballot & revision
> > > > >   M: 1900 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1757 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1898 review
> > > > >   m: 1756 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1682 ballot & revision
> > > > >   v: 2171 review
> > > > >   d: 1503 draft
> > > > >   d: 2033 draft
> > > > > 2007-11-27
> > > > >   M: 1932 ballot & revision
> > > > >   M: 1900 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1898 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1756 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1729 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1503 ballot & revision
> > > > >   v: 2171 ballot & revision
> > > > >   v: 2033 review
> > > > >   d: 1667 draft
> > > > >   d: 1683 draft
> > > > > 2007-12-04
> > > > >   M: 1900 ballot & revision
> > > > >   M: 1995 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1898 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1729 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1756 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1503 ballot & revision
> > > > >   v: 2033 ballot & revision
> > > > >   d: 1667 draft
> > > > >   d: 2150 draft
> > > > >   d: 1683 draft
> > > > > 2007-12-11
> > > > >   M: 1667 review
> > > > >   M: 1995 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1756 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1503 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 2150 review
> > > > >   m: 1683 review
> > > > >   v: 1786 review
> > > > >   d: 2172 draft
> > > > > 2007-12-18
> > > > >   M: 1667 review
> > > > >   M: 1995 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 2005 review
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> > > > >   m: 2150 review
> > > > >   m: 1683 review
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> > > > >   M: 2005 review
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> > > > >   d: 1901 draft
> > > > > 2008-01-15
> > > > >   M: 1667 ballot & revision
> > > > >   M: 2005 review
> > > > >   m: 2172 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 2150 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1683 ballot & revision
> > > > >   m: 1769 ballot & revision
> > > > >   v: 1687 ballot & revision
> > > > >   v: 1901 review
> > > > >   d: 0966/1982 draft
> > > > >   d: 2110 draft
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> > > > >   d: 1987 draft
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> > > > >   m: 2173 review
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> > > > >   m: 1769 ballot & revision
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