[sv-ac] notes from SV-AC meeting 2007-05-29

From: John Havlicek <john.havlicek_at_.....>
Date: Tue May 29 2007 - 11:11:18 PDT
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My notes from today's meeting are attached.

Please let me know if changes are required.

J.H.

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Minutes of IEEE P1800 SV-AC meeting #2007-11
Written by: John Havlicek

Date:  2007-05-29
Time:  16:00 UTC (11:00 CDT) 

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Attendance Record:
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	Legend:
		x = attended
		- = missed
		r = represented
		. = not yet a member
		v = valid voter (2 out of last 3)
		n = not a valid voter
                t = chair eligible to vote only to make or break a tie

New PAR, attendance re-initialized on 2006-08-22:

vv[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xx] Doron Bustan (Freescale)
vv[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-x] Eduard Cerny (Synopsys)	
vv[xxx---------x-x-xxx-x---x] Surrendra Dudani (Synopsys)
vv[x-xx-xxxxx-xxx-xxx-------] Yaniv Fais (Freescale)
tt[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] John Havlicek (Freescale - Chair)
vv[xxxxxxxrxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxx] Dmitry Korchemny (Intel - Co-Chair)
nn[x--xxxxx----------xx-xxxx] Manisha Kulshrestha (Mentor Graphics)
nn[------xxxxx-------x-xx-x-] Jiang Long (Mentor Graphics)
vv[-xxx.....................] Joseph Lu (Altera)
nn[---x--x-xx--xx-xxxxxxx-x-] Hillel Miller (Freescale)
vv[xxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx] Lisa Piper (Cadence)
vv[xxxxx-x..................] Erik Seligman (Intel)
vv[xxx-----xxxx-xx----------] Tej Singh (Mentor Graphics)
vv[x-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Bassam Tabbara (Synopsys)
vv[xxxxxxxxxx...............] Tom Thatcher (Sun Microsystems)
   |------------------------ attendance on 2007-05-08
 |-------------------------- voting eligibility on 2007-05-08
|--------------------------- new voting eligibility


Agenda:
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- Reminder of IEEE patent policy.
- Results of ballot on 1737:  Incomplete fixes from 1381 [EC]
- Draft3 review activities.
  . 0805 (  TS, x BT, x JH)
  . 0928 (x LP, x BT, x JH)
  . 1381 (x EC, x JH)
  . 1420 (  DB, x JH)
  . 1495 (x EC,   DB, x JH)
  . 1518 (  DB, x JH)
  . Clause 16 (x TT,   JL)
  . Annex F (x JH, x LP)
  . Need reviewers for 22.10 (bind), 36.42-36.48 (VPI Objects)
- 1729:  Immediate assume, cover [EC]
- 1648:  Default disable [EC]
- 1674:  Context value functions [EC]
- Argument subcommittee proposal reviews
  . 1549 (TT, JL)
  . Formal semantics (DK, JH)
- 1731:  Sampled value functions with arbitrary clocks [EC]
- 1599:  API and VPI changes for 0805 [BT]
- 1668:  Local var initializers [JH]
- 1361:  Control exec of action blocks [MK]
- 1728:  Let [EC], motion.  
- 1681:  Global clocking [DK] 
- 1682:  Future value functions [EC]
- 1768:  All match semantics [LP]


Notes:
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- Reminder of IEEE patent policy.
- New operting guidelines.
- Results of ballot on 1737:  Incomplete fixes from 1381 [EC]
- Draft3 review activities.
  . 0805 (x TS, x BT, x JH)
  . 0928 (x LP, x BT, x JH)
  . 1381 (x EC, x JH)
  . 1420 (x DB, x JH)
  . 1495 (x EC, x DB, x JH)
  . 1518 (x DB, x JH)
  . Clause 16 (x TT,   JL)
  . Annex F (x JH, x LP)
  . Need reviewers for 22.10 (bind), 36.42-36.48 (VPI Objects)
    - LP will review 22.10, TT will look at bind.
    - LP will review 36.42-36.48, JH will mail BT.
- EC: object diagrams for assume are no longer correct due to 
  action blocks.  Will try to fix this in 1806.
- 1729:  Immediate assume, cover [EC]
  . EC will enter a new mantis item for the VPI diagrams.
- 1648:  Default disable [EC]
  . EC revised the proposal to address concerns from YF.
  . JH will call for an email vote.
  . EC checked for a mantis item to allow default clocking
    to be changed in a nested scope.  This is SV-EC 1799.
- 1674:  Context value functions [EC]
  . ES submitted revised version so that inferred does not propagate.
  . JH will call for an email vote.
  . BT:  I think that other system tasks preclude user overloading.
    BT will look for the precedent for this and give feedback.  
- Argument subcommittee proposal reviews
  . 1549 (TT, JL)
    - TT review, LP has addressed the issues in revisions of the 
      proposal.
    - JH encourages everyone to have a look at 1549.
  . Formal semantics (DK, JH)
    - DK:  $var is not defined, other committees are thinking about
      this.  Also the recursive property definition is not clear.
    - JH:  I would like to see some examples.
    - DB:  Will send them to reflector.
    - DB:  On recursive properties.
- 1731:  Sampled value functions with arbitrary clocks [EC]
  . DK:  Tried to incorporate comments, found discrepencies.
  . DK will write the proposal based on 1550 changes and the 
    feedback to the questions sent to the reflector.
  . ED:  DK should also have a look at 1698.
- 1599:  API and VPI changes for 0805 [BT]
  . JH needs to respond to BT's comments.
  . MK, LP should review the latest.
  . JH will call email vote if we converge.
- 1668:  Local var initializers [JH]
  . EC:  What about case of empty matching r?
  . JH:  Need to review the restrictions on maximal sequential 
    expression (non-degeneracy).  Need to see whether there 
    is a problem with the non-overlapped implication.
  . JH:  will solicit feedback from the original reviewers.
- 1361:  Control exec of action blocks [MK]
  . MK has uploaded a new version.
  . DB looked at it and it seems o.k.
  . MK will update to align with Draft 3.
  . There was a problem in creating the .pdf.
  . JH will call for an email vote after the revisions are made.
- 1728:  Let [EC], motion.  
  . TS is supposed to post feedback today.
  . DK has addressed all the comments.
  . JH will call for an email ballot on the motion when DK has 
    reviewed the feedback.
- 1681:  Global clocking [DK] 
  . DK updated the proposal.
  . DB needs to re-review.
  . JH will ping the other reviewer for feedback.

We did not get to these items:
- 1682:  Future value functions [EC]
- 1768:  All match semantics [LP]


Next meeting: 
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2007-06-12 at 16:00 UTC (11:00 CDT), 2 hour slot.
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