Hi All: Bassam's "no" vote on 1466 is enough to abort the email ballot, assuming that he will not change his vote before the ballot period expires. The only technical modification I see that will help is to remove the [?] shortcut that was introduced by Dmitry. I don't see any other technical modification of the proposal that will address his or Dave Rich's concerns. Regarding the argument about dropping a digit and accidentally writing [*] instead of [*2], I think that, from a user's perspective, it is much more likely that this will be caught quickly due to the thread proliferation than, say, a mistake in counting in which [*3] is written instead of [*2]. The second kind of mistake could easily lurk un-noticed for many simulation runs until missing coverage alerted the user to the problem. The best defenses agains such mistakes that I am aware of are lint checking and human review. The arguments about ROI seem only concerned with the tool builder's perspective. In my opinion, the return from this enhancement has primarily to do with improving the human user's ability to write and read and review the code. We can discuss this further in the next meeting. At that point we should decide whether to modify the proposal or simply call for a voice vote. J.H. Ballot on Mantis 1466 - Called on 2007-03-22, final ballots due by 23:59 PDT on 2007-03-29. v[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xx] Doron Bustan (Freescale) yv[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-x] Eduard Cerny (Synopsys) n[-------x-x-xxx-x---x] Surrendra Dudani (Synopsys) v[xxxxx-xxx-xxx-------] Yaniv Fais (Freescale) t[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] John Havlicek (Freescale - Chair) v[xxrxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxx] Dmitry Korchemny (Intel - Co-Chair) v[xxx----------xx-xxxx] Manisha Kulshrestha (Mentor Graphics) v[-xxxxx-------x-xx-x-] Jiang Long (Mentor Graphics) n[-x-xx--xx-xxxxxxx-x-] Hillel Miller (Freescale) yv[x-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx] Lisa Piper (Cadence) n[-x..................] Erik Seligman (Intel) n[---xxxx-xx----------] Tej Singh (Mentor Graphics) nv[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Bassam Tabbara (Synopsys) yv[xxxxx...............] Tom Thatcher (Sun Microsystems) |-------------------- attendance on 2007-03-20 |---------------------- voting eligibility for this ballot |----------------------- email ballots received Legend: x = attended - = missed r = represented . = not yet a member v = valid voter (2 out of last 3) n = not valid voter t = chair eligible to vote only to make or break a tie -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.Received on Fri Mar 23 04:50:05 2007
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