[sv-ac] notes from SV-AC meeting 2007-03-20

From: John Havlicek <john.havlicek_at_.....>
Date: Tue Mar 20 2007 - 11:57:51 PDT
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My notes from today's meeting are attached.

Please let me know if corrections are required.

J.H.


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Minutes of IEEE P1800 SV-AC meeting #2007-06
Written by: John Havlicek

Date:  2007-03-20
Time:  16:00 UTC (11:00 CDT) 

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Attendance Record:
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	Legend:
		x = attended
		- = missed
		r = represented
		. = not yet a member
		v = valid voter (2 out of last 3)
		n = not a valid voter
                t = chair eligible to vote only to make or break a tie

New PAR, attendance re-initialized on 2006-08-22:

vv[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xx] Doron Bustan (Freescale)
vv[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-x] Eduard Cerny (Synopsys)	
nn[-------x-x-xxx-x---x] Surrendra Dudani (Synopsys)
vv[xxxxx-xxx-xxx-------] Yaniv Fais (Freescale)
tt[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] John Havlicek (Freescale - Chair)
vv[xxrxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxx] Dmitry Korchemny (Intel - Co-Chair)
vv[xxx----------xx-xxxx] Manisha Kulshrestha (Mentor Graphics)
vv[-xxxxx-------x-xx-x-] Jiang Long (Mentor Graphics)
nv[-x-xx--xx-xxxxxxx-x-] Hillel Miller (Freescale)
vv[x-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx] Lisa Piper (Cadence)
nn[-x..................] Erik Seligman (Intel)
nn[---xxxx-xx----------] Tej Singh (Mentor Graphics)
vv[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Bassam Tabbara (Synopsys)
vv[xxxxx...............] Tom Thatcher (Sun Microsystems)
   |-------------------- attendance on 2007-03-20
 |---------------------- voting eligibility on 2007-03-20
|----------------------- new voting eligibility


Agenda:
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- Reminder of IEEE patent policy.
- Completed ballots on 1722, 1735.
- Draft of merged LRM available, feedback desired, but not to be 
  used as a baseline for proposals.
- 1547:  Verif. statement in clocking block [LP]
  . BT reviewer.
- 1728:  Let [EC]  
  . EC sent draft text of motion.  Proposal outline needs
    to be reviewed.  Volunteer?
- 1729:  Immediate assume, cover [EC]
  . Proposal needs to be reviewed.  Volunteer?
- 1730:  Literal sequence and property arguments [EC]
  . Proposal needs to be reviewed.  Volunteer?
- 1731:  Sampled value functions with arbitrary clocks [EC]
  . Proposal needs to be reviewed.  Volunteer?
- 1599:  API and VPI changes for 0805 [BT]
  . Ready to move to SV-CC?
- 1734:  Incomplete fix to Annex E in 0805 [JH]  
  . DB reviewer.
- 1737:  Incomplete fixes from 1381 [EC]
  . TT, DB, MK reviewers.
- 1466:  Shortcuts for ## and * [LP]
  . YF reviewer.  Ready to vote?
- 1641:  Severity specification for error msgs [MK]
  . Proposal needs to be reviewed.  Volunteer?
- 1668:  Local var initializers [JH]
  . Discussion of urgency, relationship to argument semantics.
- 1361:  Control exec of action blocks
  . Is this still needed?
- 1648:  Default disable [DK,EC]
  . TT reviewer.
- 1674:  Context value functions [EC]
  . YF reviewer
- 1681:  Global clocking [EC] 
  . DB reviewer.
- 1682:  Future value functions [EC]
  . DB reviewer.
- New mantis item 1763.


Notes:
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- Reminder of IEEE patent policy.
- Completed ballots on 1722, 1735.
- Draft of merged LRM available, feedback desired, but not to be 
  used as a baseline for proposals.
- 1547:  Verif. statement in clocking block [LP]
  . BT reviewer.
  . We will leave this item on mantis but not take further action.
  . LP will add a bugnote and change priority to low.
- 1728:  Let [EC]  
  . EC sent draft text of motion.  Proposal outline needs
    to be reviewed.  Volunteer?
  . DK:  Alias construct has the same syntactic form as "let".
  . EC:  Global references are resolved in declaration context.
    Contextual expression dependencies are resolved in substitution
    context.
  . JH will call for a vote on the motion by email.
- 1729:  Immediate assume, cover [EC]
  . Proposal needs to be reviewed.  Volunteer?  LP will review.
- 1730:  Literal sequence and property arguments [EC]
  . Proposal needs to be reviewed.  Volunteer?  DB will review.
- 1731:  Sampled value functions with arbitrary clocks [EC]
  . Proposal needs to be reviewed.  Volunteer?  JH will review, MK will 
    review, DB will review.  
  . EC asked about 1698.
  . JH asked and MK has some concern about whether 1698 is needed for 1731.
  . DK argued that Annex E says what we want assertion reference to 
    $past to mean on a different clock.  1698 resolution should be 
    consistent with this.
  . EC will write something up for 1698.
- 1599:  API and VPI changes for 0805 [BT]
  . MK and LP offered feedback.
  . LP and JH raised some concern about how an attempt that
    starts and is subsequently killed is accounted for in the 
    various callbacks.
  . BT will review and see about adding PI calls for killed.
  . BT Proposal does add the coverage status properties.
  . Ready to move to SV-CC?  Not 
- 1734:  Incomplete fix to Annex E in 0805 [JH]  
  . DB reviewer.
  . JH asked for help on getting special symbols in Word.  EC recommended
    using Euclid math symbols from free version of equation editor.  BT 
    recommended inserting a symbol and choosing symbol font.  DK to send
    an example.
- 1737:  Incomplete fixes from 1381 [EC]
  . TT, DB, MK reviewers.
  . EC will make minor change to the examples, then JH will call for
    a vote.
- 1466:  Shortcuts for ## and * [LP]
  . YF reviewer.  Ready to vote?
  . LP will make minor changes, and then JH will call for a vote.
- 1641:  Severity specification for error msgs [MK]
  . Proposal needs to be reviewed.  Volunteer?  BT, LP gave 
    feedback.  LP, BT will review.
  . MK:  Hillel sent a comment about using system task to 
    control.  These could be controlled in tool-specific way
    and we could leave this as a separate mantis item.
- 1668:  Local var initializers [JH]
  . Discussion of urgency, relationship to argument semantics.
  . JH should send an example to DK to illustrate how 1667 depends
    on 1668.
- 1361:  Control exec of action blocks
  . MK:  Last time we discussed this and it is still needed.
  . BT looked at this and gave feedback. 
  . MK will make a revision, then JH will call for email ballot.
- 1648:  Default disable [EC]
  . TT reviewer.
  . TT:  only sensitivity list of always block is used to
    infer, not the logical structure of the enablers in the block.  
  . EC:  restricting to always_ff makes it easier to address
    concerns of TT.
  . EC:  For clock inference, current rule takes first event
    expression.  May need to change this definition.
  . EC will revise and TT will re-review.

We did not get to these items:
------------------------------

- 1674:  Context value functions [EC]
  . YF reviewer
- 1681:  Global clocking [EC] 
  . DB reviewer.
- 1682:  Future value functions [EC]
  . DB reviewer.
- New mantis item 1763.


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