[sv-ac] notes from the meeting of 2007-02-20

From: John Havlicek <john.havlicek_at_.....>
Date: Tue Feb 20 2007 - 11:59:48 PST
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My notes from today's meeting are attached. 

Please advise me of any changes that are required.

J.H.

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Minutes of IEEE P1800 SV-AC meeting #2007-04
Written by: John Havlicek

Date:  2007-02-20
Time:  17:00 UTC (11:00 CST) 

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Attendance Record:
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	Legend:
		x = attended
		- = missed
		r = represented
		. = not yet a member
		v = valid voter (2 out of last 3)
		n = not a valid voter
                t = chair eligible to vote only to make or break a tie

New PAR, attendance re-initialized on 2006-08-22:

vv[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xx] Doron Bustan (Freescale)
vv[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-x] Eduard Cerny (Synopsys)	
nn[-----x-x-xxx-x---x] Surrendra Dudani (Synopsys)
vv[xxx-xxx-xxx-------] Yaniv Fais (Freescale)
tt[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] John Havlicek (Freescale - Chair)
vv[rxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxx] Dmitry Korchemny (Intel - Co-Chair)
nn[x----------xx-xxxx] Manisha Kulshrestha (Mentor Graphics)
vv[xxxx-------x-xx-x-] Jiang Long (Mentor Graphics)
vv[-xx--xx-xxxxxxx-x-] Hillel Miller (Freescale)
vv[xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx] Lisa Piper (Cadence)
vv[-xxxx-xx----------] Tej Singh (Mentor Graphics)
vv[xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Bassam Tabbara (Synopsys)
vv[xxx...............] Tom Thatcher (Sun Microsystems)
   |----------------- attendance on 2007-02-20
 |------------------- voting eligibility on 2007-02-20
|-------------------- new voting eligibility



Agenda:
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- Reminder of IEEE patent policy.
- Completed ballots on 1460, 1550, 1591, 1601.
  . 1460 has some lingering issues
- New Mantis items:  need to be confirmed and (possibly) assigned.
  . Incomplete fixes found in proofreading Draft 1:  1734, 1735, 1737.
  . 1720 (vpiNotOp does not distinguish "!" from "not"):  should this go to 
    another committee?
  . Other new items:
    - 1728 (let) 
    - 1729 (immediate assume, cover)
    - 1730 (literal sequence and property arguments)
    - 1731 (sampled value functions with arbitrary clocks)
- 1735:  Incomplete fixes from 0928
- 1641:  Severity specification for error msgs (should be discussed together with SV-BC)
- 1704:  Match items do not execute on empty match
- 1668:  Local var initializers
- 1599:  API and VPI changes for 0805
- 1361:  Control exec of action blocks
- 1722:  Bind inconsistencies
- 1648:  Default reset
- 1674:  Context value functions
- 1681:  Global clocking
- 1682:  Future value functions
- 1466:  Shortcuts for ## and *
- 1547:  Verif. statement in clocking block


Notes:
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- Reminder of IEEE patent policy.
- Completed ballots on 1460, 1550, 1591, 1601.
  . 1460 has some lingering issues.  Dmitry needs to update the proposal
    and then we should be able to vote.
- New Mantis items:  need to be confirmed and (possibly) assigned.
  . Incomplete fixes found in proofreading Draft 1:  1734, 1735, 1737.
    - 1734 accepted, assigned to John.
    - 1735 accepted, assigned to Lisa.
    - 1737 accepted, assigned to Ed.
  . 1720 (vpiNotOp does not distinguish "!" from "not"):  should this go to 
    another committee?
    - We decided to accept this but left it unassigned.  Ed said that this
      could be related to a proposal by Dmitry to use HDL logic operators
      for sequences and properties.
  . Other new items from Ed Cerny.  All accepted and assigned to Ed.
    - 1728 (let) 
      . Needs to be worked on by SV-BC.  SV-AC needs to bless this.
        Assume has no template container.  Doesn't exactly follow SV
        syntax.  Scope sensitive macro that is still debuggable.  Ed
        will draft text of a motion that we can vote on.
    - 1729 (immediate assume, cover)
      . This has an LRM change change proposal.
    - 1730 (literal sequence and property arguments)
      . This has an LRM change change proposal.
    - 1731 (sampled value functions with arbitrary clocks)
      . This has an LRM change change proposal.
- 1735:  Incomplete fixes from 0928
  . Tom volunteered to review this proposal.
- 1641:  Severity specification for error msgs (should be discussed together with SV-BC)
  . Manisha will send out a revised proposal, together with some information about 
    what is changing from the current capability.  
- 1704:  Match items do not execute on empty match
  . Lisa will post a revised proposal today.  Bassam to review this proposal.
- 1668:  Local var initializers
  . Discussion about divergence from other initialization assignment by 
    performing them in order and not having default initial values.  DB
    argued that non-determinism is not needed for local variable initialization.
    There was generally agreement that with the restriction that sequences with 
    local variable declaration assignments not admit empty match, this feature 
    is syntactic sugar.  Therefore, it is not strictly necessary, but several 
    people (John included) said they like it anyway.  We will leave a bit more 
    time for feedback before calling for a vote.
- 1599:  API and VPI changes for 0805
  . Bassam will review and notify of any changes.  Manisha will review.
    Then we will need to move the item to SV-CC.
- 1361:  Control exec of action blocks
  . Skipped this item.
- 1722:  Bind inconsistencies
  . Lisa needs to update the proposal based on feedback from Surrendra.
  . Lisa will update the proposal, JH volunteered to review it.
- 1648:  Default reset
  . Tom Thatcher volunteered to review this proposal.
- 1674:  Context value functions
  . No way to pass inferred clock, etc. within a property.
  . Yaniv volunteered to review this proposal.
- 1681:  Global clocking
  . New proposal with system/global clock, mainly for formal tools.
  . Doron volunteered to review this proposal.
- 1682:  Future value functions
  . New proposal enabling reference to future value.  Mainly for 
    formal.
  . Doron volunteered to review this proposal.
- 1466:  Shortcuts for ## and *
  . Yaniv volunteered to review this proposal.
- 1547:  Verif. statement in clocking block
  . Bassam volunteered to review this proposal.

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