RE: [sv-ac] 928 Proposal Updated

From: Lisa Piper <piper_at_.....>
Date: Thu Jun 22 2006 - 07:41:45 PDT
Surya,

 

You are correct that this is an issue.  Does anyone have suggestions on
how to fix this?  It is only a problem for positional binding since
there are parenthesis when name binding is used.  

 

Breaking the syntax into one for positional and one for name binding
would be messy, but could be done. It might be more clear to simply
state in text that "event_expression, event_expression" is not allowed
as an actual argument in positional binding.  

 

Another possibility is to define:

 

            sequence_actual_arg ::=

                          sequence_instance

                        | expression

                        | ( event_expression )

 

This would allow for having expressions with or without parenthesis, but
event expressions would require parenthesis. This might have backwards
compatibility issues though, depending on how the 1800 was previously
interpreted. 

 

lisa

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From: spsaha@cal.interrasystems.com
[mailto:spsaha@cal.interrasystems.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:30 AM
To: Lisa Piper
Cc: Brad Pierce; Eduard Cerny; sv-ac@verilog.org
Subject: Re: [sv-ac] 928 Proposal Updated

 

Hi, 
I have some comment on inclusion of event_expression as part of
sequence_actual_arg. By definition event_expression is: 
event_expression ::= 
[ edge_identifier ] expression [ iff expression ] 
| sequence_instance [ iff expression ] 
| event_expression or event_expression 
| event_expression , event_expression 

So it is already containing ',' separator. And if we see the definition
of sequence_list_of_arguments, the ',' separator is again used: 

sequence_list_of_arguments 
[sequence_actual_arg] { , [sequence_actual_arg] } { , . identifier (
[sequence_actual_arg] ) } 
| . identifier (sequence_actual_arg] ) { , . identifier (
[sequence_actual_arg] ) } 

So there is obvious conflict in BNF. SV 3.1a version had that conflict
earlier, and 1800 fixed it by including only expression as
sequence_list_of_arguments. Now if we again going back, then I think
this conflict should be fixed first. 
  

Lisa Piper wrote: 

	Thanks Brad - you have a good eye!  I have incorporated the
changes in the attached and will update Mantis.

	lisa 

	
	
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	From: Brad Pierce [mailto:Brad.Pierce@synopsys.com]

	
	Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:00 PM 
	To: Lisa Piper 
	Cc: Eduard Cerny 
	Subject: RE: [sv-ac] 928 Proposal Updated  

	Lisa,

	I think property_port_item and sequence_port_item each have an
extra semicolon at the end that should be deleted. 

	Also, I would recommend defining property_actual_arg as 

	    property_actual_arg ::=  property_instance |
sequence_actual_arg 

	-- Brad 

	
	
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	From: owner-sv-ac@eda-stds.org [mailto:owner-sv-ac@eda-stds.org]
On Behalf Of Lisa Piper

	
	Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:52 PM 
	To: sv-ac@verilog.org 
	Subject: [sv-ac] 928 Proposal Updated 

	Hi all,

	928 is ready for review again.  I have reviewed and incorporated
comments from John Pierce, Bassom Tabbara, John Havlicek's, Miller
Hillel,  and Ed Cerny.  The summary is as follows: 

	The purpose is to fix issues with the existing BNF.
Specifically: 

	1. removal of list_of_formals, formal_list_item, and
actual_arg_expr that were not referenced 

	2. list_of_arguments was redfined as sequence_list_of_arguments
and property_list_of_arguments. actual_arg was defined as
sequence_actual_arg and property_actual arg.   They should be unique
because sequences cannot have property arguments. 

	3. tf_port list was replaced by sequence_port_list and
property_port_list to fix the issue that tf_port_list does not allow
default values assignment other than expression.  The new definition
allows for intiialization of all args in the definition. Named or
positional association of arguments is allowed when the sequence or
property is instantiated.  

	4. Actual args for a sequence include sequence_instance or
event_expression (which includes expressions) Actual args for a property
are the same as for a sequence with the addition of a property_instance.


	Lisa 

-- 
Regards
Surya.

  
Received on Thu Jun 22 07:42:34 2006

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