[sv-ac] Minutes from SV-AC meeting, 2014-12-15

From: Korchemny, Dmitry <dmitry.korchemny@intel.com>
Date: Thu Dec 18 2014 - 09:05:58 PST
Minutes from SV-AC Committee Meeting

Date:     2014-12-15

Time:     16.30:00 UTC (8:30 PST)

Duration:  1.5 hour



Agenda

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- Reminder of IEEE patent policy.

See: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt



- Elaborating recommendations for the next P1800 PAR.



- Opens





Attendance Record:

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         Legend:

                 x = attended

                 - = missed

                 r = represented

                 . = not yet a member

                 v = valid voter (2 out of last 3 or 3/4 overall)

                 n = not a valid voter

                 t = chair eligible to vote only to make or break a tie



Attendance re-initialized on 2014-11-18:



  v[x--] Shalom Bresticker (Intel)

  v[x--] Dennis Brophy (Mentor Graphics)

  v[xxx] Eduard Cerny (Synopsys)

  v[xxx] Ben Cohen (Accellera)

  v[xxx] John Havlicek (Cadence)

  v[xx] Tapan Kapoor (Cadence)

  t[xxx] Dmitry Korchemny (Intel - Chair)

  v[xxx] Scott Little (Intel)

  v[xx-] Anupam Prabhakar (Mentor Graphics)

  v[xxx] Erik Seligman (Intel)

  v[xx-] Samik Sengupta (Synopsys)

    |- attendance on 2014-12-01

  |--- voting eligibility on 2014-12-15







Minutes

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1.  IEEE patent policy reminder



2. Elaborating recommendations for the next P1800 PAR

3478: Make drivers of inout ports accessible
Because of the simulation performance penalty induced by this proposal (as showed the feedback from SV-BC members), Ben suggested to drop this proposal from the recommendation list.
SV-AC will not recommend to include this proposal to the next PAR.

5068: concurrent assertions in classes
Ben: This proposal is too complex to include it to the next PAR. Drop?
John: Consider forming a group to study this issue.
SV-AC will recommend to form an inter-committee group to study this issue.

5070: support sequence/property open arguments
John: This item makes sense not only for sequences and properties, but also for functions and tasks, and therefore should belong to SV-EC.
Erik: To defer this proposal to the next PAR
John: Agree
Ed: We already can pass arguments as sequence
John: There is a difference. Currently we have to pass a sequence with its arguments instantiated, and not just its name.
SV-AC will not recommend to include this proposal to the next PAR.

5071: support assertion match instance reflection API
The people were in doubt whether this proposal should be addressed in the next PAR (Ben, Erik).
John: The notion is interesting. But haven't seen the use case.
Ed: Can access through VPI.
SV-AC will not recommend to include this proposal to the next PAR.

2182: Ballot comment 56: Elaborate VPI diagrams for checkers
SV-AC will request SV-CC to address this item

4571: For next 1800: Probing property local variables for sharing across boundaries
Ed: This is hard to define
Dmitry: Need to understand the algorithmic complexity
John: Semantics: assignment to a global variable as a task. In favor of considering this.
SV-AC will recommend working on this proposal in the next PAR.

3120: "expect" construct to refer to virtual interfaces
Ed: Too complex
Ben: Let's drop
SV-AC will not recommend to include this proposal to the next PAR.

2944: concurrent assertions in tasks/functions
Erik - Looks like a low hanging fruit.
Ed: Not clear how to name assertions.
Ed: Performance is very important. Any additional feature may negatively affect performance
SV-AC will not recommend to include this proposal to the next PAR.

3057: Make local variables a first class language construct in SVA.
Ed: The feature is almost ready. We went out of time last time.
John: Should be straightforward
SV-AC will recommend working on this proposal in the next PAR.

3. Opens
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