IEEE P1735 Working Group Meeting of April 15, 2013

Meeting Info

Conference Bridge and Live-Meeting


  • Attending
    • Steven Dovich, (chair) Cadence DR
    • Dave Graubart, Synopsys DR
    • John Shields, Mentor DR
    • Ray Martin, Xilinx DR
    • Jeff Fox, Altera DR
    • Joe Daniels, P1735 Technical Editor
    • Dave Clemans, Synopsys DRA
    • Michael Smith, Synopsys DRA
    • Krista Gluchoski, IEEE Professional Services

  • Not Attending
    • Jarek Kaczynski, Aldec DR
    • Parminder Gill, Synopsys DRA
    • Premduth Vidyanandan, Xilinx
    • Nick Sgoupis, CAST
    • Albert Chiang, Synopsys
    • Nitin Khurana, Cadence DRA
    • David Pena, Cadence
    • Bin Dai, Xilinx
    • Ruchi Tyagi, Cadence DRA
    • Syed Huq, Cisco
    • Meera Srinivasan, Synopsys
    • David Tran, Synopsys


  1. Determine Quorum
  2. Patent slides
  3. Approve agenda
  4. Approval of Meeting minutes from 04/01/2013
  5. Action Items Status
  6. Liaison Reports
  7. Inter-operability Issues
  8. License Management
  9. Key Management
  10. Rights Management
  11. Common Rights and Visibility
  12. Work Plan
  13. Other Business
  14. Adjourn



We have 5/6 eligible entities, and have a working quorum.

Patent Policy

The Patent slides were offered for review.

No new claims were disclosed at the call for essential patent claims.

Agenda Approval

Motion by Dave G, seconded by John. Motion is approved.

Previous Minutes

John moved and Dave G seconded the approval of the April 1, 2013 minutes. The motion was approved.

Action Item Review

Steven reviewed the open action items.

Liaison Reports

John commented on review activity with P1076. The composition of that working group is primarily end-user, and they have recommended that tools vendor opinion be sought.

John also forwarded a recommendation to get DASC assistance in getting feedback from P1800. Steven will followup with Stan on that issue.


John noted that his review material notes that the Digital Envelope (with and without licensing) constitutes our only recommended use cases, and the other use cases ought to be removed from the draft if we are not recommending them.

The working group discussed lack of feedback from IP producers/consumers. Steven observed that getting traction with that community is slow, and that most of them are waiting to see how the market develops before they engage more deeply. Steven suggested that in the absence of other engagement from those communities, we should include a recommendation for use of technical protection in addition to the legal contract schemes currently in use.

License Management

Dave G noted that there is a lot of feedback from the review cycle, and that is under consideration for the next draft update.

Key Management

Steven reported that he was behind in the review for this section and was catching up this week. John indicated there were significant comments in the Mentor review.

Rights Management

Dave G did note comments from the review, and expects the review on Common Rights to impact definition of the Rights Control structures.

Common Rights and Visibility

John is working with the feedback to date, and hoping for more detailed review yet to come. The various DRs agreed to push for more comments and feedback from their entities.

Work Plan

John moved and Dave G seconded formation of a draft development subcommittee to meet on the off-week meeting time for collaboration on open issues. The motion is approved. Steven will form an initial agenda with the help of the working group for the first call on 22-Apr-2013. The teleconference and LiveMeeting details will be confirmed this week.

John asked about the number of potential entitiy members and Krista provide a link to the current roster of IEEE Corporate Members:

High-level objectives:

  • Complete all approval activity in 2013 before PAR expires (2013)
  • Secure pre-ballot feedback from other DASC working groups

Project Plan:

  • Distribute D3 draft for liaison review in mid-February
    • Revised content for D3 must be submitted to Joe by 11-Feb-2013 [COMPLETED]
    • D3 to be distributed to liaison groups by 20-Feb-2013 [COMPLETED]
    • Any material that is still unstable should be tagged with an inline note to the liaison reviewers [COMPLETED]
    • Noted material should be revised for mid-review update as D3a by 25-Feb-2013 (delivery to Joe) [COMPLETED]
    • Any updated D3a clauses will be supplied to liaison reviewers by 01-Mar-2013 [COMPLETED]
    • Liaison review period to close by 12-Apr-2013

  • Incorporate review comments into D4 draft for working group review
    • Changes for D4 must be submitted by 15-Apr-2013 (delivery to Joe)
    • Working group review closes 29-Apr-2013 with a decision to approve D4 as the ballot draft or revise further as D5.
    • MEC review requires 30 days and must be completed prior to ballot, initial target is 21-May-2013

  • Balloting and review
    • This schedule needs to be updated, pending the depth of the liaison review comments
    • If D4 is approved as ballot draft, and ballot period starts 01-Jul-2013, we should be able to make the December REVCOM agenda
    • Ballot group formation to close before 21-Jun-2013 in preparation for possible D4 ballot.
    • Assumptions:
      • Submission deadline for December REVCOM is 21-Oct-2013
      • Need approval of D4 as ballot draft and no substantive ballot comments that require recirc
      • 30-day ballot period requires a minimum of 45 days from working group approval of ballot draft
      • 10-day recirc period requires a minimum of 15 days from ballot comment disposition
      • Ballot comment dispositioning and incorporating draft updates accepted by the working group will add to the timeline
      • Current technical editing statement of work (contract and budget) will still be valid if D5 is completed and approved for ballot in May.
      • Failure to complete balloting/recirc by September will risk missing the December REVCOM agenda and force another PAR extension.

Task Requirements/White Paper Writer-ready Specification
Use Model 02-Jul-2008 ???
Trust Model ??? ???
Interoperability 24-Aug-2009 26-Jan-2010
License Management 19-Apr-2011 ???
Visibility Management 23-Jul-2010 ???
Key Management 18-Oct-2010 12-Aug-2011
Rights Control Structures 27-Jun-2011 ???
Common Rights 23-Jul-2011 ???

Other Business

Next Meeting

The next P1735 meeting is scheduled for April 29, 2013 at 16:00UTC.

Tentative Agenda

  1. Determine Quorum
  2. Patent slides
  3. Approve agenda
  4. Approval of Meeting minutes from 04/15/2013
  5. Action Items Status
  6. Liaison Reports
  7. Meeting Schedule
  8. Inter-operability Issues
  9. License Management
  10. Key Management
  11. Rights Management
  12. Common Rights and Visibility
  13. Work Plan
  14. Other Business
  15. Adjourn


Motion by Jeff, second by John. Approved by acclamation at 17:32UTC


These minutes are unapproved.

-- StevenDovich - 2013-04-15

Topic revision: r2 - 2013-04-15 - 17:17:54 - StevenDovich
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