Meeting 72 Minutes

Teleconference, Monday, April 23, 2012, 1600 UTC; 9:00 am Pacific Standard Time

A quorum of 6 out of 6 voting members present. 5 non-voting members were also present.
Attendance and voter status indicated on the on-line roster .

Attendees

• Voting members
  • Brett Lammers
  • Andrew Piziali
  • Yaron Kashai
  • Matan Vax
  • Darren Galpin
  • Joe Hupcey

• Non-voting members
  • Iraklis Diamantidis
  • Mike Bartley
  • Kishore Karnane
  • Hannes Froehlich
  • Amy Witherow

1. Call to order meeting 72 on April 23rd at 9:05m PST (1605 UTC)

2. Approval of Oct 10th meeting 71 minutes

• Solicit motion to approve the meeting 71 minutes
• Mike B. motions to approve meeting 71 minutes
• Yaron K. seconded
• Meeting 71 Minutes approved

3. Status update

• April 23 Status
  • There is an issue submitted on the currently submittted draft. The key word "consume" is usedin the key word table but not defined elswhere in the spec
    • This key word does have functionality with regards to events
    • Darren: Needs to go into next version. Darren will reply to Mantis issue
  • Structured Debug Messages and Reflection Enhancements have not yet been added to Mantis.
    • Matan will add
  • Other enhancements
    • Joe: Should we add something around UVMe?
      • Matan: There are some new things here (tesflow phases, UVM scoreboard, Low power)
        • Maybe should not be included in LRM as it is an open source and already part of another spec/methodology (i.e. UVM)
        • Implemented in 100% standard e as a library and no language changes/additions
    • Hannes: Specman RnD working on sets.
      • Darren will work with Hannes to get this into Mantis
    • Matan: A lot of work has been Constraint semantics (order, implications etc). Now there are very clear definitions that could update what is in the LRM
      • Most pproblematic in the past has been order. There has been a lot of work here in Specman including a new solver.
      • Improvements in lists, when subtypes etc
      • Matan to go through LRM and propose changes relative to constraint solving in Mantis issue
    • Matan: There is also generalization of "on <event>". Now it can be used for events outside of the current scope.
      • Matan to create a note in Mantis
  • What is the status of a new LRM version
    • Still waiting for last version to close out
    • Would need to submit request for new version (i.e. new PAR)
    • Then would ask for donations (i.e. Cadence to submit docs on features)
    • When is the right time?
      • Add in the items that came in todays meeting into mantis (mentioned above)
      • Wait for a few more months and see if we want a new version
• Oct 11 Status

  • Standard has been published..What Next?

    • Darren proposes waiting 6 mo or more to gather feedback on the current version
    • Joe reported that this seems in line with guidance from Stan Krolikoski
    • Andy P. asked if there were enhancement requests etc that have come in since the standard
      • Darren is concerned that he is not connected to updates made by Cadence
        • Matan offered up the following enhancements that have occured
          • Multi-dimensional lists - (actually this was addressed in the latest version as a tool limitation)
          • Reflection API updates - Has been extended in the current Specman version
          • Structured Debug Messages - generalization of the message construct
        • Darren asked if when Matan sees such changes that he could submit them as enhancements requests (Mantis)
    • Andy P. asked what we should do about updates that we voted to leave behind in this latest version.
      • Only temporal coverage was left behind by vote.
        • Does not seem to have customer demand
• July 11th Status

  • Final draft passed last ballot

    • Last step waiting for IEEE editorial staff comments if any

  • Update to our P&P's (bylaws)

    • Darren made the required updates based on the DASC updates
    • Darren G. proposes a verbal Ballot during the meeting to accept
    • Yaron K. seconded the motion
    • Vote results -
      • Voting members (4 approved, 1 abstained)
        • Brett Lammers -Approved
        • Andrew Piziali - Abstained
        • Darren Galpin - Approved
        • Yaron Kashai - Approved
        • Joe Hupcey - Approved
      • Non-voting members (3 Approved, 1 Abstained)
        • Mike Bartley - Approved
        • Iraklis Diamantidis - Approved
        • Amy Witherow - Abstained
        • Kishore Karnane - Approved
    • New bylaws approved based on 4 out 7 voting members approval

• Action Items

  • None

• Editor Slot

  • Apr 23rd Update

    • No Update

  • Oct 11 Update

    • No Update

  • July 11 Update

    • No Update

  • Mar 28 Update

    • No Update

  • Feb 14 Update

    • Amy will make the changes she can and wait for additional input on the issues that needed additioanl feedback.

    • New version will include "internal review" change bars

    • Amy and Darren will exchange the spreadsheet to track the issues and respond correctly to the SA website

  • Dec 13 Update

    • Would like to talk with Darren

      • about how to backup final FrameMaker files

      • who should Amy work with to provide source files to IEEE

  • Sept 13 Update

    • Will create new draft for ratification

    • Proposal to create a version for WG balloting that contains change bars.

    • Draft for SA balloting will not contain change bars.

4. Other business

• Any other business?
• Mail a message to ieee1647@edaNOSPAM.org (the general email reflector) if you were not recorded in these minutes

5. Call for essential patents

• The IEEE-SA updated the patent policy effective April 2008

• The details are available in updated slide set at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf. (See "Patent related" from the IEEE 1647 home page, "Slides About IEEE Patent Policy").

• If you believe that any patent claims are essential patent claims, please inform the working group. Review the posted slides for more information.

6. Next meeting

• Sept 10th at 9 am PST ( 1600 UTC )

7. Adjourn

• Mike B??. motioned

• Andy P. seconded

• Motion approved

• Meeting adjourned at 9:31 PDT (16:31 UTC)

-- BrettLammers - 2012-04-23